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SimJumpSeat 04-16-2014 06:56 PM

PSA in DFW April 30th
 
Anyone know if they will be hiring or just interviewing?

FYI, I'm not a recruiter as previously suggested, but a potential applicant if their growth continues.

bretthull 04-16-2014 07:03 PM

Are you really that eager to work for the sell outs of the industry?

pete2800 04-16-2014 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1624486)
Anyone know if they will be hiring or just interviewing?

FYI, I'm not a recruiter as previously suggested, but a potential applicant if their growth continues.

If you're a potential applicant if their growth continues, then I'm sorry to inform you that you've already missed the boat. This is how it goes... Everyone waits until a company has movement to try to jump aboard, but usually by the time everyone finds out, it's too late to be on the front of the wave.


QX is a good example. Two years ago, speaking of applying QX on here was like having leprosy. Now I have over 100 people below me, and hiring is still increasing.


Pay, choice of base, work rules/quality of life. These are the things that will be there whether there's movement or not. Choose accordingly.

SimJumpSeat 04-16-2014 07:21 PM

I don't know how to answer that. Here is what I keep thinking about.

Time on reserve, pay, growth, upgrades, etc:

Eagle - Years to just get off reserve

ExpressJet - Years to get off reserve

Mesa - Lower pay than PSA

SkyWest - Years to get off reserve

Republic - Too much unknown, very messy IMHO

PSA has a ten year contract. They are taking additional aircraft deliveries. Their classes are full. They are just far away from home or I would have already committed to interview. Since they are coming here, guess I'll go and see for myself why you would ask that.

Paid2fly 04-16-2014 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1624506)
I don't know how to answer that. Here is what I keep thinking about.

Time on reserve, pay, growth, upgrades, etc:

Eagle - Years to just get off reserve

ExpressJet - Years to get off reserve

Mesa - Lower pay than PSA

SkyWest - Years to get off reserve

Republic - Too much unknown, very messy IMHO

PSA has a ten year contract. They are taking additional aircraft deliveries. Their classes are full. They are just far away from home or I would have already committed to interview. Since they are coming here, guess I'll go and see for myself why you would ask that.




Getting off reserve could be a few months on the EMB-120 in many bases at SkyWest.

Bbourne2009 04-16-2014 07:32 PM

I'm sorry I feel like I'm missing something here........ When exactly did they make an official announcement of DFW for Apr 30th? And what does the title of this thread have to do with the topic of discussion?

On another note, if your waiting to see if growth continues just know that every month that's another 40-50 people senior to you which in the long run could end up being an extra year sitting as FO. That's pretty much the case with every regional not just PSA. Make a decision and run with it. Good luck

SimJumpSeat 04-16-2014 07:35 PM

Thanks for the reply. But, there are 3184 pilots at skywest, that's a turboprop not a jet, that pay is lower than psa pay, skywest doesn't have a union and a ten year contract. All due respect, sounds like apples to oranges.

SimJumpSeat 04-16-2014 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by Bbourne2009 (Post 1624514)
I'm sorry I feel like I'm missing something here........ When exactly did they make an official announcement of DFW for Apr 30th? And what does the title of this thread have to do with the topic of discussion?

There is a banner ad on climbto350 saying they are interviewing in Dallas/Fort Worth on April 30th.

As for the topic, curious if they are "interviewing" and offering classes or offering future interview dates when you go. Hard to pass on a LOCAL interview if class dates will be offered.

spaaks 04-16-2014 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1624516)
Thanks for the reply. But, there are 3184 pilots at skywest, that's a turboprop not a jet, that pay is lower than psa pay, skywest doesn't have a union and a ten year contract. All due respect, sounds like apples to oranges.

Pretty sure their new contract says yr 1-2 pay is the same on bro and crj. No one is too good to fly a turboprop, they're more fun than jets!

Bbourne2009 04-16-2014 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by spaaks (Post 1624521)
Pretty sure their new contract says yr 1-2 pay is the same on bro and crj. No one is too good to fly a turboprop, they're more fun than jets!

Amen :cool:

SimJumpSeat 04-16-2014 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by spaaks (Post 1624521)
Pretty sure their new contract says yr 1-2 pay is the same on bro and crj. No one is too good to fly a turboprop, they're more fun than jets!

No offense, but I need to get some jet time.

SimJumpSeat 04-16-2014 07:46 PM

So, back to the original question. Does anyone know if this is an interview for a class date?

Paid2fly 04-16-2014 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1624516)
Thanks for the reply. But, there are 3184 pilots at skywest, that's a turboprop not a jet, that pay is lower than psa pay, skywest doesn't have a union and a ten year contract. All due respect, sounds like apples to oranges.








PSA pay is higher, on what planet? SkyWest has multiple long term contracts with multiple major partners.

Guess all your sham posts mean recruiting isn't going all that well for ya at PSA?

SimJumpSeat 04-16-2014 07:58 PM

Sooooo you do or do not have the specific answer my very simple question? :confused:

rcfd13 04-16-2014 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1624516)
Thanks for the reply. But, there are 3184 pilots at skywest, that's a turboprop not a jet, that pay is lower than psa pay

That's just simply untrue. Year 2 turboprop pay at Skywest is $37.15/hour which is more than the $34/hour APC lists 2nd year PSA jet pay at.

PSA FOs top out at $41/hour and Skywest FOs top out at $49/hour.

PSA Captains top out at $99/hour and Skywest captains top out at $115/hour.

It took me 15 seconds of looking around this website to figure that out so I'm not sure why you'd post a blatant lie. There are negative things about Skywest but the pay is most definitely not one of them. The pay scale is very good for a regional.


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1624526)
No offense, but I need to get some jet time.

SJS is strong eh? What exactly do you need "jet" time for that "turbine" time won't cover? Plenty of Brasilia captains I've flown with have gone to the majors and Brasilia FOs have gone to LCCs. There are a bunch of current Brasilia captains with United class dates. My Brasilia IOE instructor is now at United. My sim partner for my last time through recurrent is now at US Airways. One person left my Brasilia -> RJ transition class mid-class to take a class date with JetBlue before ever having flown the RJ.

You don't 'need' jet time. You just think you're too cool to fly a turboprop.

rcfd13 04-16-2014 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1624516)
skywest doesn't have a union and a ten year contract.

Isn't not having a 10 year contract a good thing? Won't it suck to be at PSA 10 years from now when the payscale is the same as it is today and has never been adjusted for inflation? That's effectively a paycut every year for 10 years when the pay is towards the bottom of industry standard already.

Seminole00 04-16-2014 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by rcfd13 (Post 1624563)
That's just simply untrue. Year 2 turboprop pay at Skywest is $37.15/hour which is more than the $34/hour APC lists 2nd year PSA jet pay at.

PSA FOs top out at $41/hour and Skywest FOs top out at $49/hour.

PSA Captains top out at $99/hour and Skywest captains top out at $115/hour.

It took me 15 seconds of looking around this website to figure that out so I'm not sure why you'd post a blatant lie. There are negative things about Skywest but the pay is most definitely not one of them. The pay scale is very good for a regional.



SJS is strong eh? What exactly do you need "jet" time for that "turbine" time won't cover? Plenty of Brasilia captains I've flown with have gone to the majors and Brasilia FOs have gone to LCCs. There are a bunch of current Brasilia captains with United class dates. My Brasilia IOE instructor is now at United. My sim partner for my last time through recurrent is now at US Airways. One person left my Brasilia -> RJ transition class mid-class to take a class date with JetBlue before ever having flown the RJ.

You don't 'need' jet time. You just think you're too cool to fly a turboprop.

Please stop, that's too much logic and common sense. ;)
BTW i think he is using "fojared" recruiting strategy.

saturn 04-16-2014 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1624526)
No offense, but I need to get some jet time.

http:// http://m.memegenerator.net/instance/48650322

450knotOffice 04-16-2014 09:23 PM

From someone with about equal time in props and jets, I've never understood that "turboprops are more fun than jets" sentiment. It's simply not true. I'm glad I flew them (for maybe 7000 hours), but I don't wish to return to them. Sorry.

rcfd13 04-16-2014 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 1624582)
From someone with about equal time in props and jets, I've never understood that "turboprops are more fun than jets" sentiment. It's simply not true. I'm glad I flew them (for maybe 7000 hours), but I don't wish to return to them. Sorry.

What was more fun for me about the turboprop were the routes and overnights. On the jet I'm stuck in places like Fargo and Winnipeg all winter. Even big city overnights usually have us staying out by the airport with nothing to do within walking distance. On the turboprop I was staying within walking distance of the beach 3 nights a week and flying up and down the coast all day. Also since we only had one or two crews per night over nighting at most of the turboprop outstations the hotels would cater to us a little more providing free food, free drinks or free van rides into town. They appreciated our service a bit more than big city airport hotels that have 40 airline crews per night there.

I'd say as an airplane I enjoy flying the jet more, but I do miss the overnights and the crews from the truboprop some days.

blackbox 04-16-2014 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1624529)
So, back to the original question. Does anyone know if this is an interview for a class date?


Well I can tell by your plethora of post that you are not an airline pilot...If you were then you wouldn't have post anything you already have. I tell you what, you want to go to work for a bottom feeder like PSA, go for it! You will continue the saying that pilots are their own worst enemies, congratulations. If you really want PIC time and TRUST me Delta, United, Fedex, American, blah, blah, blah...DO NOT care if it's in a Beach 1900 or a "Jet" as you call an RJ. Just go be a street captain at Great Lakes. Honest. It's a good job and you won't be looked at as a bottom feeder trying to get an upgrade on a cool "Jet." Good luck with your aviation career, I hope I never have you on my jumpseat, let alone my right seat.

DryMotorBoatin 04-16-2014 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by Seminole00 (Post 1624569)
Please stop, that's too much logic and common sense. ;)
BTW i think he is using "fojared" recruiting strategy.

Will someone please create an apc hall of fame so fozjared can be in the inaugural class?

Snickers 04-16-2014 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin (Post 1624590)
Will someone please create an apc hall of fame so fozjared can be in the inaugural class?

Has anyone actually seen fozjared in person? I'd figure since his nipple sensitivity has been exposed, he would go into hiding to protect himself from the purple nurples headed his way.

pagey 04-16-2014 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by Snickers (Post 1624594)
Has anyone actually seen fozjared in person? I'd figure since his nipple sensitivity has been exposed, he would go into hiding to protect himself from the purple nurples headed his way.

fozjared is Kaiser Soze....I am Kaiser Soze, or maybe YOU are Kaiser Soze.

piper338 04-17-2014 02:55 AM

PSA in DFW April 30th
 
I gag when I see someone wanting to work under that 10yr contract. That contract shouldn't have been signed for 1yr.

joek 04-17-2014 03:01 AM

I think they are interviewing May 1,15,17. I'm guessing it will be in Charlotte.

RJ Pilot 04-17-2014 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1624486)
Anyone know if they will be hiring or just interviewing?

FYI, I'm not a recruiter as previously suggested, but a potential applicant if their growth continues.

You wasted all that seniority at Eagle, should've been a captain already but your impatience got the best of you.

Now you are begging to work for scraps at a subpar company.

SkylineAviation 04-17-2014 04:01 AM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1624486)
Anyone know if they will be hiring or just interviewing?

FYI, I'm not a recruiter as previously suggested, but a potential applicant if their growth continues.

Rather than coming on here constantly ranting about PSA just apply, if you haven't already, if they want you they will call. From there if you have questions as to the interview dates or otherwise you can just call or email them rather than coming here acting like a know it all and obnoxious.

If you think it's so great there just go...no need to come on here spouting off and explaining why PSA is the best regional out there.

RJ Pilot 04-17-2014 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1624526)
No offense, but I need to get some jet time.

So, those contracts on the side aren't paying off?

cartean 04-17-2014 04:16 AM

To answer the original question:

I don't know for sure but I'm just assuming if PSA is sending resources all the way out to DFW they will not waste their time. They will be interviewing and offering class dates.

Doesn't seem like they'd waste their recruiting time and resources just to go there for no reason when every regional is having a hard time recruit.

DYNASTY HVY 04-17-2014 04:19 AM

PSA in it's heydays-:)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/203/4xoq.jpg

cartean 04-17-2014 04:26 AM

http://tripcart.typepad.com/tripcart..._at_flickr.jpg

RH1228 04-17-2014 05:31 AM

Dang those were the days. It's a shame what it has come to...

brianb 04-17-2014 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY (Post 1624641)

Mmmmmmmmm........an L-1011.

exdashtrash 04-17-2014 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat (Post 1624516)
Thanks for the reply. But, there are 3184 pilots at skywest, that's a turboprop not a jet, that pay is lower than psa pay, skywest doesn't have a union and a ten year contract. All due respect, sounds like apples to oranges.



Ugh. SJS. Strong work...you'll fit right in at PSA.

PDTpilotXX 04-17-2014 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by SkylineAviation (Post 1624636)
Rather than coming on here constantly ranting about PSA just apply, if you haven't already, if they want you they will call. From there if you have questions as to the interview dates or otherwise you can just call or email them rather than coming here acting like a know it all and obnoxious.

If you think it's so great there just go...no need to come on here spouting off and explaining why PSA is the best regional out there.

Seriously man, this guy is the APC version of FI's infamous GeneralLee. Either a recruiter, a Dbag, or both. Surprised the MODS let him get away with it.

SkylineAviation 04-17-2014 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by PDTpilotXX (Post 1624809)
Seriously man, this guy is the APC version of FI's infamous GeneralLee. Either a recruiter, a Dbag, or both. Surprised the MODS let him get away with it.

You're right. I shouldn't even waste my time on his obnoxiousness.

Salukipilot4590 04-17-2014 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY (Post 1624641)

http://i.imgur.com/BsAMILs.jpg

minimwage4 04-17-2014 09:14 AM

Any pics of current FAs? As a contrast..

NVUS 04-17-2014 09:39 AM

http://afl.salsalabs.com/o/4042/c/53...s/psa-1(2).jpg


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