Fixed it for ya. PSA pilots are looked down upon in this industry for a reason. You guys are free to think otherwise (I know I would if in your position) but that's the reality. Sorry.

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You mean like PSA?

It's human nature to hate what you can't have. I get it. I just don't feel we should have to join your suffering simply because you made horrible choices in your personal and professional life.

We have lots of comair pilots working here. Cincinnati might be appealing to them I would think.

If I were younger, single and didn't own a house in CLT i would move to and bid CVG. Cool city, cheap cost of living professional sports teams and a decent number of flights in and out if you want to go on vacation...better than tys or day. (my personal opinion)

Could be a cool plave to spend your 20s and maybe early 30s.


But yea, that COMAIR guys that already live there are probably stoked about CVG...good for them.

A majority of the Comair guys are instructors. I don't know that there are many on the line. Maybe that will change and some will go to the line with the CVG base, but I wouldn't think so.

Whats the latest on the training pipleine? Anybody still waiting 6 months or anything like that? Ive heard the logjam had finally broken after the summer.

I'm told its back to normal. We had to stop taking 3 airplanes per month and reduce to two. But it looks like we will go back to 3 soon for at least a few months next year.

Has the company announced the cvg base yet?

Yes, about a week ago.

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On my last trip, I flew with a new-hire fresh off IOE. She was hired in May and was the first in her class to finish IOE. I don't think the training bubble is quite back to normal but is going the right direction. She also mentioned hearing from LCAs she flew with that CVG would start at 15 crews and 40 F/As growing to 60.

I saw some June hires a couple of weeks ago who hadn't been scheduled for their oral yet. Not sure if that's an outlier or not.

Guy I know was hired hired in mid June. He is scheduled for differences this week. He indicated that IOE should begin shortly thereafter, so its not 6 months, but probably 4ish.

I started way before the bubble and it was 5 months from new hire to completion of IOE at the time, for whatever reason my IOE was delayed a lot more than my class mates, they were 4 months beginning to end. So, who knows.

I don't know where, but I heard that it was going to fairly large. More than 15 crews. BUT with is first opening I guess I can see it being smaller then.

I heard the company bought an old prisoner bus and will transport DAY crews to CVG.


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Does the oral come pre IOE?


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Of course. You can't exactly go flying an airplane filled with people first and then show them after that you have sufficient knowledge of how it operates.

I hope that's true ..lol


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Just curious.How long have you been in the industry?

Yea, that makes sense. I wasnt sure if IOE was a final check ride situation or what. I know it means Initial Operating Experience, but for some reason I was thinking you had a check after that.

You'll get a line check at some point during your IOE but that's from the same person doing your ioe.

Hey. Does anyone know about the app called Jetaway and where I can find it? I heard you can use it for non-rev.

Also, now that the the wings US non-rev will be deactivated and you can only use NRTP. Does anyone know why they charge more using NRTP?

Example: My dad want a trip SEA-PSP the connecting flight is in PHX. On the US non-rev service its only like $40 then you do the same flight on NRTP and its almost doubled!

Does American charge for each leg?

I was hired feb and just finished differences IOE about 1-2 weeks ago

Wow only 8 months!

How much down time did you have between training events?

I think it's distance based. You can check the price before flying. But connecting flights always end up more than direct.
The app is available under the resources tab in jetnet.

Sweet thanks I appreciate it.

The weird thing is you can pull up the same flight under both sites and it is still more on NRTP

A LOT! lol

Probably about 4.5 - 5 months

What happend to the BNA base rumor? Sorry if I missed it but I would go to PSA only to move back to Tennessee. Maybe I could look into TYS. I'm not worried about a airline career anymore.

Just didn't make the cut, maybe next base opening (don't get your hopes up though). Myself, as well as many others I know, currently make the drive from Nashville to Knoxville for PSA. Takes me about 2:45 door to door and I don't have to worry about weather or not I will make the last flight home, my car always has an open seat for me...

If not, you can always go for the CLT base and commute from BNA. At least 7 or 8 flights daily.

How many times do you find yourself driving to Knoxville in a typical month? Im trying to get a rough estimate on how many times I will make that drive, so I can work up a little travel budget and figure our what kind of mileage my vehicle will be looking at. Ive figured my drive right at 2:45 as well. Im only 10 min from BNA, but I think I am subscribing to your theory about not having to worry about getting a spot on a flight.

Yea, that's what I was afraid of.

I know they say that number is creeping down, but that's still a little unsettling.

Someone has brought this up before, but do they have restrictions on other type of work you can do on the side while awaiting training? Specifically flying part 91 type stuff or working side gigs.

Someone said they nixed the BNA MTX base as well, but in Aero Crew News, they said BNA and CVG would be MTX bases... so im not sure.

There seems to be several PSA folks who live in Middle Tennessee and commute to TYS. I would assume most are MTSU alum.

I would say the average is 5 times a month, some months only 4 if the blend works in my favor. I live 25 minutes east of Nashville, so I never hit traffic, regardless of what time I leave. And with TYS being so far south of Knoxville, I never hit traffic there either, even at rush hour.

I also did the travel budget and I end up spending about $140 a month on gas, which is less that I would have to pay in hotels I would have to get when I have early shows or can't make flights.

As far as wear on the car, yeah, oil changes happen quicker. I have been in the market for new car for quite some time so I am happy with all the wear I am putting on this one. Makes my new car a little closer.

Long time lurker... thanks to all of you providing informational posts; for the remainder a special thank you for the entertainment.

Thankfully, the current wait (at least for the 200) isn't anywhere near 5 months... my wait times were:

2 months between ground and oral
1 week between oral and sims
3 weeks between sims and differences sims (currently waiting)

Rumor has me expecting little to no wait for IOE.

The gap is definitely closing since the July guys are right on our heals. I would be surprised if todays new hire sat for much more than a month. It isn't exactly in the company's best interest for us to be sitting at home and not contributing.

So i just flew with a captain today and one of his friends interviewed in july and they gave him a december class date.

Now, they have been improving the amount of time it takes to get through training because they've been constantly getting more check airmen and they've lowered the amount of people being hired (i.e. last class i heard about had only 7 pilots) so my assumption is they will push people through quicker than it was this last year.

As far as doing something in-between, I don't know... what they did offer us, was to be an IPT instructor while waiting to go to sim since it took so long. That pays better as well.

Is there any difference in the oral if you already hold an ATP?

No difference in the oral. It isn't anything to freak out about though, you are given everything you need. Take care of your side and the oral is just another test to knock out of the park.