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I'm not bitter or miserable, just making some points. I was able to credit 130+ hours every month but it appears the company might be putting an end to that (due to their manipulation of the buffers on the reserve grid). Oh well, I can upgrade and have the base of my choice. I probably wont be on reserve long considering a that of folks junior to m are upgrading. Time will tell how the ability to receive critical/premium plays out. In my opinion, the company is being very shady right now.

Hahaha, I JUST said this a couple weeks ago. "How long do you think mgmt will continue to let you guys rape them through the SAP before they put an end to it?" Y'all made your bed, now lay in it

Paid2fly

11-16-2014 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1764852)

Just remember...You can 't fix stupid, which is what PSA is mostly hiring right now.

Well said!:):D;)

CBreezy

11-17-2014 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by spaaks (Post 1765071)

Hahaha, I JUST said this a couple weeks ago. "How long do you think mgmt will continue to let you guys rape them through the SAP before they put an end to it?" Y'all made your bed, now lay in it

Can someone tell me what SAP is?

AboveAndBeyond

11-17-2014 04:23 AM

Schedule Adjustment Period.

It allows you to drop trips and/or pick trips up. Lets say you start with close to 100 hours on a particular line, it allows you to drop a trip or two down to the minimum of 65 hours, and then pick trips up again at additional pay.

Nyflier

11-17-2014 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Systemized (Post 1764808)

Interesting their giving 11 sim sessions now during initial, it was 8 including the check ride.

It is still officially 8 sessions then a PC and LOFT (this hasn't changed for several years). They give a "warm up" session prior to session 1 but it is not required. They will give extra sessions if needed but the amount of extra sessions depends on the student and needs approval from management. They will typically give at least 2 extra sessions if needed.

PilotCrusader

11-17-2014 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1765142)

Can someone tell me what SAP is?

It is a great scheduling program combined with amazing critical pay rules. Unfortunately, AAG already has their sights set on eliminating this. Judging by the speed in which PSA gladly bent over last time, I'd say it won't cost AAG much to "fix" the glitch.

JohnLocke

11-17-2014 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverPilot8 (Post 1764874)

This is exactly why I think the 8 month upgrades will not happen for people hired today. Also as they continue to hire and the upgrade gets longer there will be less and less of an incentive to go to PSA which could make things harder for them to staff I think. Rift or wrong there is a lot of negativity towards PSA so without a quick upgrade people will be less likey to go there i would think

There are also about 100 pilots who have the seniority to hold captain and are either bypassing or do not have enough 121 time. Because of this the extremely short upgrade time PSA is experiencing is artificially low and misleading. By the time anyone hired now completes training chances are most of these pilots will have the time and that upgrade time will go up.

2sBrownBear

11-17-2014 11:23 AM

Does anyone know if PSA will waive the 1000 hours of 121 time if a pilot has mil PIC time? Have there been any examples/experiences of this?

TallFlyer

11-17-2014 11:41 AM

The Useful PSA Thread

Per the new ATP reg 500 hours of mil AC time counts towards the 1,000 121 SIC requirement.

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