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bradeku1008 02-15-2015 07:36 AM
Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1825917)
So, SAP allows you to drop stuff before the schedule is final? Yeah. We have that too.
No the SAP allows you to not just drop trips like every airline does. It allows you to re arrange your entire schedual by yourself. Drop, Add, Swap and more importantly be able to get holidays, kids birthdays, 18 days off, etc... You can do not from your own computer and it's in my opinion the best QOL tool in the airlines.

CBreezy 02-15-2015 07:38 AM
Originally Posted by Tyler253 (Post 1825949)
Ya, you definitely read it wrong. He clearly stated if you already had the 121 time.
I didn't read it wrong. The thread was revived by a guy who didn't have any. He made it clear in his post. It was in response of that. It's not my fault people like to hear themselves talk without reading more than 3 posts before they decide to open their decidedly unintelligent mouths.

Tyler253 02-15-2015 07:42 AM
Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1825951)
I didn't read it wrong. The thread was revived by a guy who didn't have any. He made it clear in his post. It was in response of that. It's not my fault people like to hear themselves talk without reading more than 3 posts before they decide to open their decidedly unintelligent mouths.
If you already have the mins to upgrade then you will do so in about 6-7 months.[/COLOR] You will spend about 2 months in training. 1.5-2 months waiting on IOE at home while getting paid. Then come off IOE with a line and upgrade in 3-4 months.

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that is a true statement. The fact that he wasn't talking about a new hire, then this means he read the other post wrong.

FlyingKat 02-15-2015 07:44 AM
Originally Posted by bradeku1008 (Post 1825950)
No the SAP allows you to not just drop trips like every airline does. It allows you to re arrange your entire schedual by yourself. Drop, Add, Swap and more importantly be able to get holidays, kids birthdays, 18 days off, etc... You can do not from your own computer and it's in my opinion the best QOL tool in the airlines.
We have the same kind of line improvement period. Thought they were talking about the part of your contract where the company designates premium days and if a trip touches it you get the premium pay for the entire trip. We get 150% for all pickups out of open time.

FlyingKat 02-15-2015 07:58 AM
Originally Posted by bradeku1008 (Post 1825868)
Then please explain. How is your training pay? Does the CQFO pay at captain rates only when you fly in both seats? What about the 401 K matching?
Training pay sucks but these guys will never see the right seat. The company has no interest in hiring guys for the left seat and paying them twice what they have to pay a new hire. Most will have regular upgrades by the end of the year and all when have ugrades early next year. The CQFO is a contractractual tool to protect seniority of those on property so the company cannot hire street captains. Right now new hires are going straight into OE so they are not sitting at home two or three months. So a new hire will make a heck of a lot more at TSA as a CQFO than at PSA because outside of three months in training, they will be paid Captain rates and the guys hired now will be awarded regular upgrades to Captain by mid to late summer.

FlyingKat 02-15-2015 08:08 AM
Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1825510)
1) He specifically mentioned all that stuff "If he already had the mins to upgrade."

2) If he's not eligible for CQFO there is no advantage in going to TSA. Our SAP would make his experience at PSA most likely more enjoyable than TSA.

3) The rates are identical to one another.....Unless he makes it past year 4 as an FO or 12 as CA.
LOL you need to study the history of this industry. There are carcasses everywhere of FOs who thought they were going to upgrade in a year or two and Captains who thought they would be at mainline in four or five years. Yeah it looks good now, but the worm can take a very wicked turn quickly in this industry. Plus our 70 seat pay rates are much better when the MRJ gets here.

Luv2Rotate 02-15-2015 08:10 AM
Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 1825969)
LOL you need to study the history of this industry. There are carcasses everywhere of FOs who thought they were going to upgrade in a year or two and Captains who thought they would be at mainline in four or five years. Yeah it looks good now, but the worm can take a very wicked turn quickly in this industry. Plus our 70 seat pay rates are much better when the MRJ gets here.
Not to flame, but has the MRJ even flown? It's going 2yrs behind schedule.

Timma 02-15-2015 08:54 AM
Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1825971)
Not to flame, but has the MRJ even flown? It's going 2yrs behind schedule.
That's gonna make it sooo much cooler when we get it!

minimwage4 02-15-2015 08:55 AM
Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1825971)
Not to flame, but has the MRJ even flown? It's going 2yrs behind schedule.
It will fly in a few weeks.

7AC2B60 02-15-2015 09:03 AM
MRJ info
 
MRJ - Mitsubishi Regional Jet

Outline | MRJ - Mitsubishi Regional Jet


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