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Old 12-16-2014 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by OzarkALPilot
I have 560 hours 121 SIC.

Yes I was talking about PSA. I have a class date of Jan 5th.
Lateral move from XJT.. Getting nervous people are saying the quick upgrade has already past
Upgrades will be less than 2 years for many years to come. You are in a good position, much better than at XJT. You will have guaranteed attrition ahead of you to AA and there are still 40 options on new airplanes. Get your 1,000 SIC time as fast as you can and you will leapfrog people senior to you. Those that are saying the quick upgrades are over do not know what they are talking about. With the exception of a few places, short upgrades will be the norm at most regionals without a bunch of lifers and no flow/pref hiring agreements. Just concentrate your energy on training and don't worry about the upgrade.
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Old 12-16-2014 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by OzarkALPilot
I have 560 hours 121 SIC.

Yes I was talking about PSA. I have a class date of Jan 5th.
Lateral move from XJT.. Getting nervous people are saying the quick upgrade has already past
You might not upgrade in 8 months like people hired earlier this year but slightly less than or right on 2 years is almost a certainty unless something happens to the 700s we are slated for in June.

Undoubtedly you will upgrade faster at either place than at XJT. With only 500 hours you can't have been there for more than a yearish, I'd say you have nothing to lose.

TSA might be faster if you already had the 1000 SIC, as you do not I'd say the upgrade time at both places would be near identical(as soon, or soon after you are legally qualified)
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Old 12-16-2014 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Do you tell everyone you fly for mainline? I know I get paid better than all your FOs
How do you know you get paid better?

Don't say because your pay-rate is higher either.
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Old 12-16-2014 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pagey
How do you know you get paid better?

Don't say because your pay-rate is higher either.
Because my pay rate is better and I'm crediting 120 hours each month
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Old 12-16-2014 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Because my pay rate is better and I'm crediting 120 hours each month
Ok, and that is sustainable long term? How many days off are you getting?

Where do you work and how long have you been there for?
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Old 12-16-2014 | 02:12 PM
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Thanks guys I appreciate the help. I've been at xjt 8 months. Between them stopping hiring and then Dulles closing im not any closer to holding a line and upgrade is 8-10 years if they start hiring again.

No complaints on contract or the company and love living in base but need to be able to upgrade to make better money untill like everyone can hopefully make it to the Big 3 or a good LCC
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Old 12-16-2014 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pagey
Ok, and that is sustainable long term? How many days off are you getting?

Where do you work and how long have you been there for?
I've been crediting over 95 for 6 months and I've been here a year. Point being, no one should assume they make more than anyone else because of perceived advantages. Someone at each airline is not breaking guarentee.
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Old 12-16-2014 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I've been crediting over 95 for 6 months and I've been here a year. Point being, no one should assume they make more than anyone else because of perceived advantages. Someone at each airline is not breaking guarentee.
Seems like you work a lot and for not very much money. I have been getting at least 18 days off every month so that I can make more money and grow my business while seeing my kids grow up. Even at $45 an hr 120 hrs of pay isn't that much money for all the time away and work you do, I'm glad I learned that lesson years ago. Much happier with multiple incomes and flying only 65 hrs.
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Old 12-16-2014 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I've been crediting over 95 for 6 months and I've been here a year. Point being, no one should assume they make more than anyone else because of perceived advantages. Someone at each airline is not breaking guarentee.
Well, on first year pay I think it's safe to say you cannot be making more money than ALL our FOs, unless you are at a legacy or LCC.

How many days off are you getting? to some, time is money.

Regardless, especially on the FO side I'm sure we are arguing over a very small amount of money anyway.
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Old 12-16-2014 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pagey
What a useful, thought-out, intelligent, helpful addition....

Do you have specific reasons, with sources to site?

Do you have an alternate suggestion for him? With specific, factual reasons why your suggestion might be better?

Have you worked at either one? Perhaps you could share your first hand experiences.

Do you have any idea, at all, what you are talking about?
Well... If people would look at and compare contracts they would see the difference. Not going to sit here and post all the reasons. It's been covered pretty well... Besides PSA has done nothing but bring this industry down by voting in the contract they did.
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