For all 3 WO, I think the goal right now is to hire as many as they can get and train. Isom said that PSA is scheduled to grow to 150 airplanes, but if we are able to staff more, he will happily send more airplanes to PSA. PDT will also get as many airplanes as they can staff. Envoy was initially expected to shrink, but they are filling classes and will likely stay the same size or even grow a little.

AAG had changed how they view their wholly owned regionals and they want them to do the majority of AAs flying.

Of the 10 regionals that are currently flying for AA, expect 5 of them to be cut in the next few years.

As far as total numbers of pilots, PSA started in 2013 with 400 pilots. Starting in late 2013, we started growing and hit 1200 pilots in July 2015. Then, they stopped hiring for a few months (slowed it down) to catch up in the training department. Sims and IOE were really backed up. When they tried to start hiring again, the damage had been done. Other places were offering more money and faster upgrades. So, we stagnated for a while.

PSA has since grown their training department. We have twice the number of line check airmen to do IOE, added another sim, added another IPT machine, and increased the number of sim instructors.

Now, we are trying to hire about 35 every two weeks, and have the training department to handle this growth. We just added a few more sim instructors that came over from Air Wisconsin, and the word out of the training department is that we are going to start leasing an additional sim that Air Wisconsin currently uses (they are getting rid of one sim).

So, if we can staff 200 airplanes, we will have 200 airplanes. That will be about 2200 pilots. Same goes for PDT and Envoy. If we can only staff 150, that is where we will stop.

Currently, we have 115 airplanes. The last 35 will start coming in March or April most likely.

We currently have 1200 pilots on property. Our average attrition is about 25 a month right now, and we all expect it to go to about 35-40 a month in 2017. That means with current hiring numbers, we should add about 400 pilots in 2017 to bring us to 1600 (perfect number for 150 airplanes).

" bidding for said open time" references the ability to bid for the trips we don't normally see I.e. all the stuff Brooklyn has been sending out. It doesn't have anything to do with what premium the CCP trips pay.

I asked the union leadership for clarification and they have not responded.

This should tell you what you're wondering about

I asked ST yesterday at the LEC meeting in CLT.

Any chance I can get the gouge for the oral?

Yes it does! So looking at the new Dec '16 awards and if that the newest captain is still a July '15 hire, that would mean that the sorta quick (less then 2 years) upgrade still is around. Is thay correct?

Also what are the proposed changes to the SAP?

That July 2015 hire was a direct entry CA. I believe current upgrade is September or October 2014.

There are no "proposed changes" to the SAP at all. The union has agreed to meet with the company to discuss our SAP in February. That doesn't mean anything will change.

There aren't any official proposed changes to the SAP process and I can't imagine there being much of any since SAP is the single largest reason to come to PSA. The company loves it as a recruiting tool. I think the only time it causes them problems is for holidays. Had we been able to hire as planned for the year I don't think staffing would be an issue for December.

There has been some research into the feasibility of a PBS type system which would improve efficiency -- especially during the blend. I don't think the pilot group would have an issue with a transition to PBS as long as the SAP process was maintained as is.

Correct, Junior CA on the recent bid was a Sept 14 hire.