PSA Critical Pay
02-07-2016 | 08:55 AM
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ALPA doesn't represent AA, and they represent the WO's so there isn't a conflict of interest. Sounds like a beat to death talking point.
02-07-2016 | 08:59 AM
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02-07-2016 | 09:31 AM
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Actually, your lawyer wrote the contract, and it is enforceable. Your union leaders, not ALPA, just need to grow a pair and be willing to take it to an arbitrator.
And you voted in that contract that EVERYONE said was going to come back to haunt you. This forum was full of warning you to vote no. But, new jets!!
And you voted in that contract that EVERYONE said was going to come back to haunt you. This forum was full of warning you to vote no. But, new jets!!
02-07-2016 | 09:57 AM
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This, ladies and gents, is why APC is a cesspool. People like this(and yes, you are one of the worst offenders when it comes to bashing, PSA especially) come on here spouting such absolutely uninformed nonsense it blows my mind.
You not only have no idea what you are talking about but you apparently did not even read one single previous post in this thread.
This case already went to an arbitrator, and, again, critical pay has nothing to do with our 900 LOA vote......at all.....nothing.
Run along.......You look like a moron
02-07-2016 | 10:28 AM
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Because they told us. There were several fastread updates that claimed we were "waiting on the arbiter to make a decision." Then suddenly we got one that said "well, really we've had it for months because the arbiter told us to go back to the table."
Amazingly the forum was shut down shortly after people made that connection and got angry. Pilots started talking and the forum suddenly went away "because it was too expensive." The old regime lied.
Amazingly the forum was shut down shortly after people made that connection and got angry. Pilots started talking and the forum suddenly went away "because it was too expensive." The old regime lied.
02-07-2016 | 11:21 AM
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There was also quite a long discussion on our company forum (conveniently inaccessible) in which pilots were requesting the arbiters info so that their lawyers could encourage him to make a decision. Those pilots were told to be patient and told contacting the arbiter wouldn't help or could make things worse. We now know, by the unions own admission, that we weren't waiting on the arbiter at all.
Just like when the TAs were being dissected and discussed (once they were finally released), the pilot group became angry with being lied to so the forum was shut down. There was zero heads up about the cost of the forum being a problem. Call me tinfoil hat crazy if it makes you feel better. I say bring back the forum (intact) to prove me wrong. The BS has to stop.
Just like when the TAs were being dissected and discussed (once they were finally released), the pilot group became angry with being lied to so the forum was shut down. There was zero heads up about the cost of the forum being a problem. Call me tinfoil hat crazy if it makes you feel better. I say bring back the forum (intact) to prove me wrong. The BS has to stop.
02-07-2016 | 05:24 PM
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There was also quite a long discussion on our company forum (conveniently inaccessible) in which pilots were requesting the arbiters info so that their lawyers could encourage him to make a decision. Those pilots were told to be patient and told contacting the arbiter wouldn't help or could make things worse. We now know, by the unions own admission, that we weren't waiting on the arbiter at all.
Just like when the TAs were being dissected and discussed (once they were finally released), the pilot group became angry with being lied to so the forum was shut down. There was zero heads up about the cost of the forum being a problem. Call me tinfoil hat crazy if it makes you feel better. I say bring back the forum (intact) to prove me wrong. The BS has to stop.
Just like when the TAs were being dissected and discussed (once they were finally released), the pilot group became angry with being lied to so the forum was shut down. There was zero heads up about the cost of the forum being a problem. Call me tinfoil hat crazy if it makes you feel better. I say bring back the forum (intact) to prove me wrong. The BS has to stop.
LMAO..... You guys really think an arbitrator is going to let some lawyer force him to make a decision.... "Better Call Saul"
02-07-2016 | 06:52 PM
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02-07-2016 | 10:49 PM
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This isn't a death case sentence. 8 months is too long for the arbitrator to come to a conclusion. An outside lawyer will have the ability to ensure their isn't foul play. We are talking about $19 million here. A year.
Our MEC has said that our internal message board was not approved by Alpa. Maybe that was one of the reasons it was removed. Either way our previous MEC was not honest, I doubt they are being honest about the web board being shut down either. If we lost the critical pay arbitration then so be it. Let's get it done and move on.
Our MEC has said that our internal message board was not approved by Alpa. Maybe that was one of the reasons it was removed. Either way our previous MEC was not honest, I doubt they are being honest about the web board being shut down either. If we lost the critical pay arbitration then so be it. Let's get it done and move on.
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