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CLT Guy 06-23-2016 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Realtalk (Post 2149916)
Clt guy guess what? Nobody cares about your struggles.

Wasn't it a year ago you were boasting about how great things are at PSA. The sjs finally wear off? Realized how bad the PSA contract is? Been beat up on RSV?

Ahh its too bad they voted that crap in, looks like you'll have to deal the crap hand you voted in.

Just to clarify NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR 1ST YEAR STRUGGLES.

Actually, none of those are my struggles. I am a line holder. I can choose whatever schedule I want with the SAP.

I am concerned for new guys that are coming on board. The ones that don't have it as good as I do, and likely won't for another 2-3 years.

If followed, our contract is pretty decent. We would have the highest paid pilots in the industry if our Critical Pay worked as it is supposed to. Hopefully it will be back to normal when the arbitration is over. Every line holder will credit over 150 hours a month if they work the system.

pagey 06-23-2016 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by Realtalk (Post 2149916)
Clt guy guess what? Nobody cares about your struggles.

Wasn't it a year ago you were boasting about how great things are at PSA. The sjs finally wear off? Realized how bad the PSA contract is? Been beat up on RSV?

Ahh its too bad they voted that crap in, looks like you'll have to deal the crap hand you voted in.

Just to clarify NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR 1ST YEAR STRUGGLES.

Just to clarify: You don't know what the ******** you are talking about. The "crap we voted in" has not ONE SINGLE THING to do with ANY of the issues he mentioned. In reality he wants the company to actually follow the contract that we have. You know, that "crap hand" that made us the second highest paying regional in 2014.

You must work at a good regional though.....

airlinegypsy 06-24-2016 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 2149949)
Just to clarify: You don't know what the ******** you are talking about. The "crap we voted in" has not ONE SINGLE THING to do with ANY of the issues he mentioned. In reality he wants the company to actually follow the contract that we have. You know, that "crap hand" that made us the second highest paying regional in 2014.



You must work at a good regional though.....



So... What you're saying is since the TA you voted in concessions to get you to where you are now? Or is it that you trusted management to do the right thing when you voted in weak language?


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chrisreedrules 06-24-2016 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by airlinegypsy (Post 2150036)
So... What you're saying is since the TA you voted in concessions to get you to where you are now? Or is it that you trusted management to do the right thing when you voted in weak language?


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Yea there were concessions and gains in that contract. Unless you work here and know the contract is refrain from hopping on the bandwagon. Besides, everyone knows the regional you work for is stellar right?

pagey 06-24-2016 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by airlinegypsy (Post 2150036)
So... What you're saying is since the TA you voted in concessions to get you to where you are now? Or is it that you trusted management to do the right thing when you voted in weak language?


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No, what I'm saying is that the TA we voted in didn't even contain any of the language they are taking advantage of, which by the way, is not weak. The company just blatantly decided not to follow it. The TA we voted in ONLY had 12/4 and the 32(?)% insurance. THATS IT, NOTHING ELSE. 6 months before our TA you lemmings were congratulating PSA on this very website for finally getting an industry standard deal after 5 years of negotiations. Educate yourself before you throw stones.

All that being said this place is awful right now.

PilotJ3 06-24-2016 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 2150047)
No, what I'm saying is that the TA we voted in didn't even contain any of the language they are taking advantage of, which by the way, is not weak. The company just blatantly decided not to follow it. The TA we voted in ONLY had 12/4 and the 32(?)% insurance. THATS IT, NOTHING ELSE. 6 months before our TA you lemmings were congratulating PSA on this very website for finally getting an industry standard deal after 5 years of negotiations. Educate yourself before you throw stones.

All that being said this place is awful right now.

12/4 (with a B scale), insurance up to 35%, perdiem frozen for a couple of year, 1% pay raises starting like at 2018 which doesn't keep with inflation.

It didn't made that much of a change for PSA. But it broguth down PDT and ENY.

Here we lost IAI, which would had kept us on par with Skywest, TSA, RAH, etc PAY RAISES. Per diem frozen at 1.85 when we should have been at $2.05.

It made more damage here than there for sure. But hey that's OK let's educate everybody what PSA did to the industry. Parker said the WO had to be competitive with Endevour, but know they don't want to keep up with Endevour model.

pagey 06-24-2016 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 2150078)
12/4 (with a B scale), insurance up to 35%, perdiem frozen for a couple of year, 1% pay raises starting like at 2018 which doesn't keep with inflation.

It didn't made that much of a change for PSA. But it broguth down PDT and ENY.

Here we lost IAI, which would had kept us on par with Skywest, TSA, RAH, etc PAY RAISES. Per diem frozen at 1.85 when we should have been at $2.05.

It made more damage here than there for sure. But hey that's OK let's educate everybody what PSA did to the industry. Parker said the WO had to be competitive with Endevour, but know they don't want to keep up with Endevour model.

Our original contract only had us going up to 1.80. I think we are at 1.75 now, so it cost us 5 cents. The 1% was never in our original deal so it was actually a good thing, even though it does not keep up with inflation. We also had the rate increase from the "large RJ" section of the original deal, as well as the blended rate increase.

"What PSA did to the industry"......Tell me about pay rates across the industry since we signed our deal.

DilsonWic 06-24-2016 08:28 AM

It made more damage here than there for sure. But hey that's OK let's educate everybody what PSA did to the industry. Parker said the WO had to be competitive with Endevour, but know they don't want to keep up with Endevour model.[/QUOTE]

So what does this industry look like had PSA said no? You think DP and his peeps would just roll over and hand out cash. It's a bigger picture than a yes or no vote.


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