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jlhenderson70 03-01-2007 06:29 PM

I still feel bad for being a jerk.
good day sir.

GliderCFI 03-02-2007 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot (Post 126819)
Pray tell me what a real pilot is ?

I too, wonder what a real pilot is by his definition. Apparently someone who pushes buttons more than they touch the stick and rudder is a "real pilot." Wow. I love how some people sound like they never left middle school.

jlhenderson70 03-02-2007 08:07 AM

I don't know for sure what a real pilot is. I was once a stick and rudder pilot then a button pusher I now fly the plane simply by osmosis.

XJPILOT1 03-02-2007 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot (Post 126889)
Thank you sir. Agree completely. There are many different routes to becoming a professional pilot. All are valid. The key is quality of training by CFIs (where most of us started), the hard work of sim instructors during checkout, and finally continuous mentoring by experienced Captains. The attitude that each imparts is crucial. I often wish that all who fly (or have flown )professionally would address each other as if they worked together, there would be less controversy. But then again we are human, competitive, and in the case of the younger generation, have a case of raging hormones. :cool:


Oh yeeeaaa!!! That's why these forums are loaded with 'postal' workers!! Kool Aid anyone!!!

P.S. That's the meanest thing I'm gonna' say. :o

Ftrooppilot 03-02-2007 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by jlhenderson70 (Post 127171)
I don't know for sure what a real pilot is. I was once a stick and rudder pilot then a button pusher I now fly the plane simply by osmosis.

That's one of the problem with these modern machines; they take the fun out of flying. We all long for those stick and rudder days when we "strapped the airplane on" instead of "locking ourselves in."

How many "glass cockpit" experts would panic at the sight of a J-3 Cub instrument (?????) panel ? :eek:

XJPILOT1 03-02-2007 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by GliderCFI (Post 126672)
600 hours is a lot different than 200. I'm not saying I'm "deserving of a jet" or anything, but I just cleared 600 hours last month and I've been instructing in one way or another for a year and a half now, and I know I'm a heck of a lot more capable than a 200 hour pilot. Granted some of that comes from flying last semester in a Cessna 404, but we still went to places such as Atlanta and O'Hare with it. I know I'm going to get my head bitten off for this, but seriously folks. What is the point of complaining about young or inexperienced pilots when it's the future whether we like it or not? Yeah times used to be different. So what? I'm guessing some of you complaining about "when I was your age" issues flew civillian. Well guess what? There was a time too when military guys worried about all those crazy civillian pilots coming up the ranks.

Sooner or later, you're going to have a young and inexperienced FO in the cockpit sitting next to you. What are you going to do? Harass him for being stupid? Or make a difference? If he's having problems, try to help him out instead of belittling him. It's like complaining about someone in a political office when you don't vote. Moral of this story is when you get down to it, stop complaining, accept the fact that there really is a shortage of pilots in training while the industry needs more. Accept the fact that the jet jocks get younger and younger and their logbooks are getting thinner and thinner every day. And yes I too am not a big fan of the ATP schools, and the 90 day wonder flight schools, but hey, don't crap on the guys who are training in a legit fashion, and just happen to be what the airlines are looking for. Seriously. What do you guys propose they do? Not apply until they've instructed for 2000 hours and no longer enjoy the career field we are all sworn to?

Once again, I'm not trying to tick people off, I'm just trying to shed some logic on this.

By the way, I too am a student at MTSU, as well as an instrctor for the flight school.

I agree with ya! Low time pilots do not realize they are less capable until they are no longer a low time pilot. Experience (after training) is key here. Being a CFI provides you with more experience then if you're not a CFI. Many who have never been a CFI (seat warming time leechers don't count) cannot even comprehend this so ignore them. Now that being said, all over the world, low time people (pilots) are being paired with high time people (pilots) in every profession. Knowing this, why do we even bring it up. Jealousy I suppose.

jlhenderson70 03-02-2007 08:26 AM

What the heck is a 404 ? no pics of it on Airliners.net

Ftrooppilot 03-02-2007 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by XJPILOT1 (Post 127192)
. . . Low time pilots do not realize they are less capable until they are no longer a low time pilot. . . .

Ever been asked, "How old would you think you are if you didn't know how old you are ?"

or

It isn't what we don't know that will hurt us. It's what we don't know that we don't know that will hurt us.

Young aspiring pilots need mentoring. Take care of that FO who might be your Captain some day.:eek:

jlhenderson70 03-02-2007 08:43 AM

Why do folks say the 121 regional FO has no decision making capability ? does'nt really matter, He ain't gonna be makin' any critical decisions anyway.

jlhenderson70 03-02-2007 08:44 AM

that was in regards to the 500hr FO


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