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Old 03-01-2007 | 09:47 AM
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I am currently attending MTSU as an aerospace major. My commercial professor just got back from a convention and was telling us about a meeting they had with the airline reps. He said that they had about 5 airlines represented, from Delta down to ASA. He said they had them lined up at a table like a panel discussion when the question was raised about bridge programs and lowered time minimums. He says that they started with delta requiring something like 500/100 and that as they went down the line the numbers were getting lower. By the time they got to ASA they were saying that with a bridge program they would be looking for guys with 200/10. This sounds like it was just a competition as they went down the line where each rep was just wanting to beat the last airlines numbers. I just wanted to see what you guys thought about this.
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Old 03-01-2007 | 09:58 AM
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I'll think I'll start sending the wife and kids on amtrak
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Old 03-01-2007 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by wrf2e
I am currently attending MTSU as an aerospace major. My commercial professor just got back from a convention and was telling us about a meeting they had with the airline reps. He said that they had about 5 airlines represented, from Delta down to ASA. He said they had them lined up at a table like a panel discussion when the question was raised about bridge programs and lowered time minimums. He says that they started with delta requiring something like 500/100 and that as they went down the line the numbers were getting lower. By the time they got to ASA they were saying that with a bridge program they would be looking for guys with 200/10. This sounds like it was just a competition as they went down the line where each rep was just wanting to beat the last airlines numbers. I just wanted to see what you guys thought about this.

Some of the regionals may hiring at the wet commercial level, but I can guarantee you that Delta is not Off the street competetive for DAL is probably something like 10,000 hours, 6,000+ Jet PIC.

Most of us aren't really happy about it...there's a lot to be learned by spending 1000-1500 hours in general aviation/135. Personally I think any 121 pilot should hold an ATP.
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Old 03-01-2007 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Most of us aren't really happy about it...there's a lot to be learned by spending 1000-1500 hours in general aviation/135. Personally I think any 121 pilot should hold an ATP.
I agree, but you know you are going to take abuse from the newbies on this board who think they deserve a jet at 200 hr.
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Old 03-01-2007 | 11:01 AM
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I hate to say it, but this is the beginning of the end. I can see some kid sitting there with 600 hours in the cockpit sharing his "there I was" stories.... Wait, they do that now. Never mind..

I agree Rick, an ATP is priceless.. When I started this back in the 80s, the mins to apply to a commuter was 1,500 with 500 ME.
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Old 03-01-2007 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiseclimb
I hate to say it, but this is the beginning of the end. I can see some kid sitting there with 600 hours in the cockpit sharing his "there I was" stories.... Wait, they do that now. Never mind..

I agree Rick, an ATP is priceless.. When I started this back in the 80s, the mins to apply to a commuter was 1,500 with 500 ME.
It was still like that in the late 90's as well. I was trying to get an interview back then with the regionals and most places still had 200-500 multi min not to mention high total time . I had to go grind it out hauling checks at night and never regretted that experence for a min.
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Old 03-01-2007 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Some of the regionals may hiring at the wet commercial level, but I can guarantee you that Delta is not Off the street competetive for DAL is probably something like 10,000 hours, 6,000+ Jet PIC.

Most of us aren't really happy about it...there's a lot to be learned by spending 1000-1500 hours in general aviation/135. Personally I think any 121 pilot should hold an ATP.
And not give the guys under 21 a chance?
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Old 03-01-2007 | 12:19 PM
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It was still like that in the late 90's as well. I was trying to get an interview back then with the regionals and most places still had 200-500 multi min not to mention high total time . I had to go grind it out hauling checks at night and never regretted that experence for a min.
Isn't hauling checks considered on-demand?
Meaning....at least 500hrs?
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Old 03-01-2007 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by shanejj
Isn't hauling checks considered on-demand?
Meaning....at least 500hrs?
IFR 135 mins there! 1200 total, 500 X/C, 100 night, and 75 Inst. You can do VFR 135 at 500 hours but that is about as useless as a hot air balloon type rating to most companies in the business.
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