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wrf2e 03-01-2007 09:47 AM

Time requirements??
 
I am currently attending MTSU as an aerospace major. My commercial professor just got back from a convention and was telling us about a meeting they had with the airline reps. He said that they had about 5 airlines represented, from Delta down to ASA. He said they had them lined up at a table like a panel discussion when the question was raised about bridge programs and lowered time minimums. He says that they started with delta requiring something like 500/100 and that as they went down the line the numbers were getting lower. By the time they got to ASA they were saying that with a bridge program they would be looking for guys with 200/10. This sounds like it was just a competition as they went down the line where each rep was just wanting to beat the last airlines numbers. I just wanted to see what you guys thought about this.

surfnfly 03-01-2007 09:58 AM

I'll think I'll start sending the wife and kids on amtrak

rickair7777 03-01-2007 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by wrf2e (Post 126497)
I am currently attending MTSU as an aerospace major. My commercial professor just got back from a convention and was telling us about a meeting they had with the airline reps. He said that they had about 5 airlines represented, from Delta down to ASA. He said they had them lined up at a table like a panel discussion when the question was raised about bridge programs and lowered time minimums. He says that they started with delta requiring something like 500/100 and that as they went down the line the numbers were getting lower. By the time they got to ASA they were saying that with a bridge program they would be looking for guys with 200/10. This sounds like it was just a competition as they went down the line where each rep was just wanting to beat the last airlines numbers. I just wanted to see what you guys thought about this.


Some of the regionals may hiring at the wet commercial level, but I can guarantee you that Delta is not :rolleyes: Off the street competetive for DAL is probably something like 10,000 hours, 6,000+ Jet PIC.

Most of us aren't really happy about it...there's a lot to be learned by spending 1000-1500 hours in general aviation/135. Personally I think any 121 pilot should hold an ATP.

sflpilot 03-01-2007 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 126512)
Most of us aren't really happy about it...there's a lot to be learned by spending 1000-1500 hours in general aviation/135. Personally I think any 121 pilot should hold an ATP.

I agree, but you know you are going to take abuse from the newbies on this board who think they deserve a jet at 200 hr.

cruiseclimb 03-01-2007 11:01 AM

I hate to say it, but this is the beginning of the end. I can see some kid sitting there with 600 hours in the cockpit sharing his "there I was" stories.... Wait, they do that now. Never mind..

I agree Rick, an ATP is priceless.. When I started this back in the 80s, the mins to apply to a commuter was 1,500 with 500 ME.

ANPBird 03-01-2007 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by cruiseclimb (Post 126541)
I hate to say it, but this is the beginning of the end. I can see some kid sitting there with 600 hours in the cockpit sharing his "there I was" stories.... Wait, they do that now. Never mind..

I agree Rick, an ATP is priceless.. When I started this back in the 80s, the mins to apply to a commuter was 1,500 with 500 ME.

It was still like that in the late 90's as well. I was trying to get an interview back then with the regionals and most places still had 200-500 multi min not to mention high total time . I had to go grind it out hauling checks at night and never regretted that experence for a min.

shanejj 03-01-2007 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 126512)
Some of the regionals may hiring at the wet commercial level, but I can guarantee you that Delta is not :rolleyes: Off the street competetive for DAL is probably something like 10,000 hours, 6,000+ Jet PIC.

Most of us aren't really happy about it...there's a lot to be learned by spending 1000-1500 hours in general aviation/135. Personally I think any 121 pilot should hold an ATP.

And not give the guys under 21 a chance?:(

shanejj 03-01-2007 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by ANPBird (Post 126591)
It was still like that in the late 90's as well. I was trying to get an interview back then with the regionals and most places still had 200-500 multi min not to mention high total time . I had to go grind it out hauling checks at night and never regretted that experence for a min.

Isn't hauling checks considered on-demand?
Meaning....at least 500hrs?

ANPBird 03-01-2007 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by shanejj (Post 126602)
Isn't hauling checks considered on-demand?
Meaning....at least 500hrs?

IFR 135 mins there! 1200 total, 500 X/C, 100 night, and 75 Inst. You can do VFR 135 at 500 hours but that is about as useless as a hot air balloon type rating to most companies in the business.

iahflyr 03-01-2007 12:43 PM

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