Is Skywest adding flights to cover Horizon?
07-03-2017, 11:32 AM
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Is Skywest adding flights to cover Horizon?
Someone on airliner.net mentioned they thought Skywest added an extra flight to cover a cancelled Horizon flight. There's a big article this week on how Horizon is cancelling flights due to the pilot shortage.
True? Thoughts? Scabs?
True? Thoughts? Scabs?
07-03-2017, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Omnipotent
Just a technicality.
You diminish the power of that perjorative by using it loosely and incorrectly.
Regionals (union represented or not) have been in the business of adding flights to cover other Connection/Express/whatever Airlines who can't meet their mainline commitments for decades.
Mesa in particular has a long history of being unable to staff their flights, which have been picked up on an as needed basis by other carriers. Are all the pilots who fly those trips scabs? No.
07-03-2017, 01:07 PM
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Is Skywest adding flights to cover Horizon?
Originally Posted by Winston
No, it's not.
You diminish the power of that perjorative by using it loosely and incorrectly.
Regionals (union represented or not) have been in the business of adding flights to cover other Connection/Express/whatever Airlines who can't meet their mainline commitments for decades.
Mesa in particular has a long history of being unable to staff their flights, which have been picked up on an as needed basis by other carriers. Are all the pilots who fly those trips scabs? No.
You diminish the power of that perjorative by using it loosely and incorrectly.
Regionals (union represented or not) have been in the business of adding flights to cover other Connection/Express/whatever Airlines who can't meet their mainline commitments for decades.
Mesa in particular has a long history of being unable to staff their flights, which have been picked up on an as needed basis by other carriers. Are all the pilots who fly those trips scabs? No.
I agree that that term should be held for strikebreaker but I think that what he meant as a technicality is that if a non-union worker covers for the work of union employees, that that is technically a scab. Therefore, any union pilot covering flights for union Mesa pilots would not be scabs.
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a : a contemptible person
b (1) : a worker who refuses to join a labor union (2) : a union member who refuses to strike or returns to work before a strike has ended (3) : a worker who accepts employment or replaces a union worker during a strike (4) : one who works for less than union wages or on nonunion terms
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scab
07-03-2017, 01:35 PM
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Within the confines of this profession that term is not colloquial, it refers to a pilot who flies struck work as defined by one's MEC during the course of a specific strike action.
Let's all try to be adults here and address the real issues leading to this shell game of regional carriers, in this case the lack of any real scope protection in Alaska's contract. The reality is that no one should be flying these routes except Alaska Airlines pilots (not SkyWest, and not Horizon).
Address THAT and you've gone a long way towards solving the problem. Far more so than randomly calling people names on an anonymous Internet forum.
Let's all try to be adults here and address the real issues leading to this shell game of regional carriers, in this case the lack of any real scope protection in Alaska's contract. The reality is that no one should be flying these routes except Alaska Airlines pilots (not SkyWest, and not Horizon).
Address THAT and you've gone a long way towards solving the problem. Far more so than randomly calling people names on an anonymous Internet forum.
07-03-2017, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Seven3Seven
Someone on airliner.net mentioned they thought Skywest added an extra flight to cover a cancelled Horizon flight. There's a big article this week on how Horizon is cancelling flights due to the pilot shortage.
True? Thoughts? Scabs?
True? Thoughts? Scabs?
07-03-2017, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Seven3Seven
Someone on airliner.net mentioned they thought Skywest added an extra flight to cover a cancelled Horizon flight. There's a big article this week on how Horizon is cancelling flights due to the pilot shortage.
True? Thoughts? Scabs?
True? Thoughts? Scabs?
07-04-2017, 10:26 AM
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IF AS adds a Skywest section after cancelling a QX flight because of their own mismanagement I think the ALPA brothers at both AS and QX should be crying foul.
Otherwise whats to stop them from just making every flight Alaska, operated by Skywest?
Otherwise whats to stop them from just making every flight Alaska, operated by Skywest?
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