Retiring AF Col/best regional option in DFW
#21
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Personally, I enjoyed just being a crewmember at the regionals and leaving the "captain stuff" to the guy in the left seat, no matter what his/her age. It was a welcome change from years of having to be in charge.
#22
On Reserve
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Position: Single Engine, Single Seat
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I know I have been subordinate to people younger than me in my current career and have also been in a position of authority over people older than me. So I know an age disparity inverse to positional authority puts pressure on both individuals but the left seat is occupied by a professionally trained captain, might be overly simplistic but he or she is in charge of a crew for the safe conduct of the flight, the right seat occupant obviously has a role to fill. I have a lot to learn and look forward to this journey. Certainly an outsider's view looking in but I wholeheartedly agree with Hacker. (I feel like I just answered an interview question )
#23
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I do love when people pose that question, as if a senior military officer has never flown with a much younger aircraft commander / flight lead / instructor / evaluator / etc.
Yes. All the time, and with full understanding that authority is by virtue of qualification and position, not age.
Yes. All the time, and with full understanding that authority is by virtue of qualification and position, not age.
#24
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
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Honestly, if you came to Envoy you’d probably get to a major before you’d ever hold DFW. With growth on the 175 in ORD and on the 145in LGA and MIA, I wouldn’t plan on seeing a ton of open slots in DFW on either fleet type. The future at XJT looks pretty bleak and Mesa is a joke.
#25
The ones who would not fit in well are sufficiently self aware to avoid the situation.
#26
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Yes, I'm sure there are some O-6+ types who haven't been able to forget that while in an airline cockpit they're not wearing the rank of their reserve gig or what's on their retiree ID card. They probably didn't mesh well with suddenly being a team-member rather than the chief decisionmaker. They've probably made cringeworthy comments that indicated they just couldn't stow their Big Blue act in the luggage rack. We knew these same folks were egoists when we were all on active duty, too, and to expect that they'd be able to shed that skin completely after going to the airlines is probably too much to ask.
These folks are douches and deserve every bit of razzing behind their back (and in front of their face) that they get.
That being said, the mistake is taking the ridiculous act of these outlier retards and assuming that it is the standard for retiring O-6+s crossing over to the airline biz. It shouldn't be, and it isn't in my experience.
#27
To be fair, the prevalence of the "Kernal" trope in the industry for the last 20 years (especially at SWA) means that there is at least a nugget of truth at the center of it.
Yes, I'm sure there are some O-6+ types who haven't been able to forget that while in an airline cockpit they're not wearing the rank of their reserve gig or what's on their retiree ID card. They probably didn't mesh well with suddenly being a team-member rather than the chief decisionmaker. They've probably made cringeworthy comments that indicated they just couldn't stow their Big Blue act in the luggage rack. We knew these same folks were egoists when we were all on active duty, too, and to expect that they'd be able to shed that skin completely after going to the airlines is probably too much to ask.
These folks are douches and deserve every bit of razzing behind their back (and in front of their face) that they get.
That being said, the mistake is taking the ridiculous act of these outlier retards and assuming that it is the standard for retiring O-6+s crossing over to the airline biz. It shouldn't be, and it isn't in my experience.
Yes, I'm sure there are some O-6+ types who haven't been able to forget that while in an airline cockpit they're not wearing the rank of their reserve gig or what's on their retiree ID card. They probably didn't mesh well with suddenly being a team-member rather than the chief decisionmaker. They've probably made cringeworthy comments that indicated they just couldn't stow their Big Blue act in the luggage rack. We knew these same folks were egoists when we were all on active duty, too, and to expect that they'd be able to shed that skin completely after going to the airlines is probably too much to ask.
These folks are douches and deserve every bit of razzing behind their back (and in front of their face) that they get.
That being said, the mistake is taking the ridiculous act of these outlier retards and assuming that it is the standard for retiring O-6+s crossing over to the airline biz. It shouldn't be, and it isn't in my experience.
#28
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Honestly, if you came to Envoy you’d probably get to a major before you’d ever hold DFW. With growth on the 175 in ORD and on the 145in LGA and MIA, I wouldn’t plan on seeing a ton of open slots in DFW on either fleet type. The future at XJT looks pretty bleak and Mesa is a joke.
#29
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Location, location, location. Pick the regional with the easiest commute from wherever you live (or are going to live after leaving Uncle Sam).
Barring that, there have been numerous discussions on this topic in other threads on APC for the last couple years:
Low time Mil - where to place my bets?
Barring that, there have been numerous discussions on this topic in other threads on APC for the last couple years:
Low time Mil - where to place my bets?
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