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04-08-2007 | 06:43 AM
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04-08-2007 | 07:01 AM
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From: FDX A300 CPT
het tony since you won't say it..i will...hey txturd...tony has more time in a holding pattern with one engine on fire in a snowstorm over denver eating a chicken sandwich than u have total time...and at FDX we use cessna 310s as chocks..go away little boy...
04-08-2007 | 07:08 AM
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Can I use this hahaha!!!
04-08-2007 | 07:13 AM
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Not exactly the best behavior for an industry that often relies very heavily on networking... but I suppose that in your ignorance and youth that you figure you don't need the help of others to succeed. Just remember that the foot your stomping on today could very well be attached to the ass you'll be kissing tomorrow.
We can go round and round all day... But the truth is there's no right or wrong- only opinion. A graduate from a 4 year aviation program is going to have a different experience and knowledge level than somebody that trained wholly at a local FBO. Both have advantages, and both have the necessary skill to obtain a rating.
That said, odds are that the 4 year degree student has had more in depth training in certain subjects than that of the local FBO student. Does that make him a better pilot? No. But it does count for something.
Likewise, the FBO pilot often has other life experience that a wet behind the ears aviation university grad brings to the table. They've also probably learned to fly in a less structured environment, which can certainly be a benefit for some jobs.
There's nothing wrong with either road. In the end, the piece of plastic still looks the same and says the same thing. And often they come at a very similar price.
My aviation degree from UND + FAA certificates cost the same as a good friend that majored in Business from Virginia Tech and then learned to fly at the local FBO. We have similar student loan payments, and both fly for a living. The difference? While we both graduated in 2000, it took him an additional year before he was hired on at his first aviation job (he too is a full time aviator).
Both of us ended up working for the same company (I was happy to write a recommendation for him). The only difference was that I could interview with lower time since I was an aviation major.
We can go round and round all day... But the truth is there's no right or wrong- only opinion. A graduate from a 4 year aviation program is going to have a different experience and knowledge level than somebody that trained wholly at a local FBO. Both have advantages, and both have the necessary skill to obtain a rating.
That said, odds are that the 4 year degree student has had more in depth training in certain subjects than that of the local FBO student. Does that make him a better pilot? No. But it does count for something.
Likewise, the FBO pilot often has other life experience that a wet behind the ears aviation university grad brings to the table. They've also probably learned to fly in a less structured environment, which can certainly be a benefit for some jobs.
There's nothing wrong with either road. In the end, the piece of plastic still looks the same and says the same thing. And often they come at a very similar price.
My aviation degree from UND + FAA certificates cost the same as a good friend that majored in Business from Virginia Tech and then learned to fly at the local FBO. We have similar student loan payments, and both fly for a living. The difference? While we both graduated in 2000, it took him an additional year before he was hired on at his first aviation job (he too is a full time aviator).
Both of us ended up working for the same company (I was happy to write a recommendation for him). The only difference was that I could interview with lower time since I was an aviation major.
Well put! That's why airlines hire from both paths.
04-08-2007 | 08:06 AM
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I regret not getting an aviation degree from an aviation school.
I made an even worse mistake than majoring in aviation.
I went out of state to a military college which some penal colonies have higher standards of living. And I paid out of state rates! yuck. Ended up with a history degree. Which was okay at best, I worked in finance for around 18mos. And now I'm chasing this flying gig like I always really wanted.
Would have been a better path for me... i think, maybe...who knows.
I made an even worse mistake than majoring in aviation.
I went out of state to a military college which some penal colonies have higher standards of living. And I paid out of state rates! yuck. Ended up with a history degree. Which was okay at best, I worked in finance for around 18mos. And now I'm chasing this flying gig like I always really wanted.
Would have been a better path for me... i think, maybe...who knows.
04-08-2007 | 08:52 AM
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I regret not getting an aviation degree from an aviation school.
I made an even worse mistake than majoring in aviation.
I went out of state to a military college which some penal colonies have higher standards of living. And I paid out of state rates! yuck. Ended up with a history degree. Which was okay at best, I worked in finance for around 18mos. And now I'm chasing this flying gig like I always really wanted.
Would have been a better path for me... i think, maybe...who knows.
I made an even worse mistake than majoring in aviation.
I went out of state to a military college which some penal colonies have higher standards of living. And I paid out of state rates! yuck. Ended up with a history degree. Which was okay at best, I worked in finance for around 18mos. And now I'm chasing this flying gig like I always really wanted.
Would have been a better path for me... i think, maybe...who knows.
A aviation degree is ok. It depends on what you want to do. If you want to get into airport or airline management then its good. To be a pilot, you dont really need one
04-08-2007 | 09:22 AM
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Calling Tony a "tool" is floridly stupid. I am not sure how, after reading his posts, you could take offense at his opinions enough to call him a tool.
I see both points - an Aviation Degree could be looked upon as a meaningless degree outside of the flying profession. I also understand VERY well that degreed people will usually not end up in there Major.
Perhaps one way to avoid this is something like a Math degree (or similiar Liberal Arts degree - Physics, English, etc.). You could always have the fallback of teaching, and a Liberal Arts education could serve to make you a more well rounded human being. It would serve notice that you know HOW to learn and can finish a task which is what most employers are looking for. Most college graduates that I see are fairly worthless when starting employment anyway (in the business world) and need to be taught the business. The fact that they completed college means they are teachable and can stay on task - which will shorten the learning curve in the real world. Just my two cents.
I see both points - an Aviation Degree could be looked upon as a meaningless degree outside of the flying profession. I also understand VERY well that degreed people will usually not end up in there Major.
Perhaps one way to avoid this is something like a Math degree (or similiar Liberal Arts degree - Physics, English, etc.). You could always have the fallback of teaching, and a Liberal Arts education could serve to make you a more well rounded human being. It would serve notice that you know HOW to learn and can finish a task which is what most employers are looking for. Most college graduates that I see are fairly worthless when starting employment anyway (in the business world) and need to be taught the business. The fact that they completed college means they are teachable and can stay on task - which will shorten the learning curve in the real world. Just my two cents.
04-08-2007 | 11:35 AM
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Ok, I apologize for saying that but I still stick by my opinion that an aviation degree is a waste of time and money. Just my opinion, some may feel it is useful and some may not. The point is, whatever you feel better about is what's best for you.
04-08-2007 | 02:26 PM
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