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Old 07-05-2018, 09:14 AM
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Did a quick pros/cons & napkin math between OO, EDV, and RPA. This is for my personal situation at least. Of course, upgrade times and things like that are moving targets. Please correct me if I'm wrong here:


Republic:
Year 1 55k - (45k + 10k bonus)
Year 2 55k - (50k + 5k bonus)
Year 3 54k - (51k + 3k bonus)

Total to date 164k

Year 4 96k (upgrade to captain)

New total to date 260k

Pros: Shiny Jet. Good schedules and contract. No ready reserve. No Junior Manning. Morale seems high. Pay is good. 2020 Captain pay is great if I ended up getting stuck there.
Cons: I'd have to live in Columbus Ohio to avoid commuting. To avoid commuting, I'd also need to defer upgrade until CMH CA slot opens (~3 years). I'd need to be at CMH for ~ 5 years as a CA to hold a line.


Skywest:
Year 1 40k
Year 2 42k
Year 3 82k (upgrade to Captain)

Total to date: 164k

Year 4 85k

New total to date: 249k

Pros: I'd be able to build PIC time faster at OO, hold a better schedule at DTW sooner, and not have to sit reserve. I also wouldn't have to sit at NYC.
Cons: Initial pay sucks. SkyWest seems to be reluctant to improve contracts. Morale seems low.


Endeavor:
Year 1 60k - (50k + 10k bonus)
Year 2 60k
Year 3 62k

Total to date 182k

Year 4 100k (upgrade to captain, using their 2020 CA pay rates on the 900)

New total to date 282k

Pros: Pay is obviously way better. DGI. People there seem very happy. Morale is high.
Cons: I'd have to commute to NYC for ~ 3 months out of training before I could hold DTW. I would likely choose not to upgrade to CA until I could hold dtw (~3 years). I'd have to sit reserve as a CA in DTW for a year or two after upgrading. I'd have to wait ~5 years to hold a line as a CA in DTW.
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Whatever the interview thing is they have now. I know someone at Delta that says the EDV pilots need some help.

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The DGI hasn’t even started.
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:27 PM
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Whatever the interview thing is they have now. I know someone at Delta that says the EDV pilots need some help.
EDV Pilots need help? I’m glad the 300TT pilot who never has flown for an airline can tell us that. Your “someone” at delta must be feeding you false info
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Old 07-13-2018, 06:11 AM
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The Delta "person" is going off the previous SSP experience where it was a combo of miscommunicated expectations from management of what kind of interview it would be and sometimes lazy prep from pilots... Either way that perception can be hard to shake even with mitigating factors.

The DGI will be a fresh start for all and is just beginning.
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Is that even with factoring in Endeavor's commuter policies? I.e. positive space after first attempt, etc?
Management frowns upon you using it at EDV. It's still stressful.
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Management frowns upon you using it at EDV. It's still stressful.
I’ve never had a problem. Just don’t abuse it and make sure to list for the jumpseat if it’s full. They can see how hard you try
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Old 07-14-2018, 12:22 AM
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Management frowns upon you using it at EDV. It's still stressful.
As far as I’ve heard, only as much as they frown upon not wearing the hat. Aka no big deal. Some of the commutes here are impossible and the result of closed bases and they know that... eg MEM ATL.
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Republic just ordered 100 new 175s, with options for an additional 100. Holy smokes.

When is Endeavor getting that bird?
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Old 07-18-2018, 02:27 PM
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Is there a link to the republic/endeavor contracts to compare the pay rates for the next couple of years?
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Is there a link to the republic/endeavor contracts to compare the pay rates for the next couple of years?
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