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jeff122670 04-16-2007 04:40 PM

great video!!! and i think the song is appropriate...

i mean, with military flying videos, hate music is best...but "bombs over baghdad" or "let the bodies hit the floor" just doesnt do that picturesque approach over the nations capital justice!!......ha.ha!!

keep the videos coming....and hey, look at it this way, at least the guy who made this seems to like his job and isnt bitching about the company....(ooops, did i say that...)

deadstick35 04-16-2007 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by jeff122670 (Post 150807)
i mean, with military flying videos, hate music is best...but "bombs over baghdad" or "let the bodies hit the floor" just doesnt do that picturesque approach over the nations capital justice!!......ha.ha!!


Grouchy Media rocks!!:D I love Taliban Bodies, Magic F-18, and of course America's Defense.



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JetJock16 04-16-2007 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by Lab Rat (Post 150723)
Since when is taking videos from the cockpit considered "necessary for the safety of the flight"?

BTW, the captain is exercising poor judgment if he allows the first officer to film the flight below 10,000 feet.

Apparently you think that being the PNF (Pilot Not Flying) on a visual is a stressful job. BLAH! BLAH! BLAH!

Please, if it's an approach to mins or a stormy gusty day I'd agree with you. But on a beautiful calm day, the PNF's role during a visual approach is as stressful as watching your favorite TV show. You just sit there and watch. Besides, every video that I've ever taken and I've take a lot, didn't require any of my attention. There was always a nice, safe, secure and stable location for me to place the SMALL camera (a little larger than a wallet) while receiving a quality video. Even if you have to hold the camera in your hand, you can still do your job with the level of awareness a PNF needs. After all, you don't have to look through the camera to aim it!

You must be a fed or one boring pilot who I'm glad I don't have to fly with. After completing a miserable pairing with you, I'd definitely "Bid Avoid" you on the next bid. That's one thing that I truly like about PBS, if you're flying with a bad CA or FO then you're not stuck with them for the entire month and on the next bid you can "Bid Avoid" them without anybody ever knowing. Just complete the pairing and odds are you won't see him the rest of the month. No harm, No foul.

If you can't enjoy your job, while being safe, then what can you do?

sgrd0q 04-17-2007 03:54 AM

Those who've been around for a while will know that runway incursions do happen in the best of weather and mistakes during approach also happen in the best of weather. Hence the sterile cockpit concept. The cockpit is rarely truly sterile but shooting a video is definitely over the top in my opinion.

HotMamaPilot 04-17-2007 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by sgrd0q (Post 151084)
Those who've been around for a while will know that runway incursions do happen in the best of weather and mistakes during approach also happen in the best of weather. Hence the sterile cockpit concept. The cockpit is rarely truly sterile but shooting a video is definitely over the top in my opinion.

jet jok, i'm on your side. realistically, there is no harm in shootin a quick flick. I wonder what experience level those so opposed to it have? seems like they are still in the idealist mode and too brain washed by silly rules. not to say that a sterile cockpit is silly, but gimme a break......an exception can be made occasionally.

AV8ER 04-17-2007 06:21 AM

Isn't a video camera one of those electronic devices that will cause all of the radios and navs to go haywire and cause the plane to fall out of the sky???

G-Dog 04-17-2007 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by AV8ER (Post 151152)
Isn't a video camera one of those electronic devices that will cause all of the radios and navs to go haywire and cause the plane to fall out of the sky???

Notice the plane did not fall out of the sky.

AV8ER 04-17-2007 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by G-Dog (Post 151153)
Notice the plane did not fall out of the sky.

EXACTLY!!!!!!

Helium3 04-17-2007 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by AV8ER (Post 151152)
Isn't a video camera one of those electronic devices that will cause all of the radios and navs to go haywire and cause the plane to fall out of the sky???


Laptops can be a problem only if they have wireless capability.
This is also true for wireless PDAs and some other wireless communication devices.
It is unlikely that even these will interfere as they operate on a frequency far from the equipment used in aircraft with the exception of ADF. Primarily radio communication and possibly fly-by-wire components are a concern but you are unlikely to encounter a problem there either.
You may hear the effects if you ever use these devices near an AM radio.

I haven't put in .02 yet so I thought it only appropriate to pay my dues.

AV8ER 04-17-2007 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by Helium3 (Post 151176)
Laptops can be a problem only if they have wireless capability.
This is also true for wireless PDAs and some other wireless communication devices.
It is unlikely that even these will interfere as they operate on a frequency far from the equipment used in aircraft with the exception of ADF. Primarily radio communication and possibly fly-by-wire components are a concern but you are unlikely to encounter a problem there either.
You may hear the effects if you ever use these devices near an AM radio.

I haven't put in .02 yet so I thought it only appropriate to pay my dues.

I gues I should have put a sarcastic smiley by my post...I thought the part about "and will make it fall out of the sky" would be enough...:rolleyes:


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