TSA Sen No and UAL Travel for SEU Students!
11-29-2018, 06:27 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by FollowMe
Well when you see a player who spent a 15 year career playing for one team versus one who played 10 years for 17 teams what comes to your mind?
But one team = little league. A reasonable progression would be something like little league, HS ball, college ball, majors.
Somebody who's only played for one team is going to be a one-trick pony at best. For example I vastly prefer union officials with multiple airlines under their belt.
And we're not talking about flying skills, we're talking about industry experience and perspective.
Last edited by rickair7777; 11-30-2018 at 08:30 PM. Reason: typo
11-30-2018, 03:59 AM
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Strictly speaking all airline pilots are professionals, as they are compensated for their performance. That said the colloquialism “pro” generally infers a relatively high level of skill when compared to ones peers. In this sense again, moving from airline to airline doesn’t really instill a sense of such skill, in fact (excepting a few unfortunate souls who have experienced multiple shutdowns) it typically implies the opposite.
Perhaps we can settle on “grizzled vet”?
Perhaps we can settle on “grizzled vet”?
11-30-2018, 05:04 AM
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Sounds like a good deal getting a CJO with limited seniority and having travel benefits on United. If the students fly all summer and then take the winter semester off to go overseas they'll do quite well.
11-30-2018, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
17 teams yes.
But one team = little league. A reasonable progression would be something like little league, HS ball, college ball, majors.
Somebody who's only played for one team is going to be a one-trick pony at best. For example I vastly union officials with multiple airlines under their belt.
And we're not talking about flying skills, we're talking about industry experience and perspective.
But one team = little league. A reasonable progression would be something like little league, HS ball, college ball, majors.
Somebody who's only played for one team is going to be a one-trick pony at best. For example I vastly union officials with multiple airlines under their belt.
And we're not talking about flying skills, we're talking about industry experience and perspective.
The point is, it's pretty bold to refer to your own self as a pro as a means of winning an argument.
11-30-2018, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
So what do you call someone who spent their career bouncing around single A?
The point is, it's pretty bold to refer to your own self as a pro as a means of winning an argument.
The point is, it's pretty bold to refer to your own self as a pro as a means of winning an argument.
I was "arguing" with a regional airline recruiter who was selling snake oil to noobs. I would think anyone here would value my "argument" over that of a salesman.
Did I offend your regional?
12-01-2018, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I'm not a pro? Every move I've made has been a step up
I was "arguing" with a regional airline recruiter who was selling snake oil to noobs. I would think anyone here would value my "argument" over that of a salesman.
Did I offend your regional?
I was "arguing" with a regional airline recruiter who was selling snake oil to noobs. I would think anyone here would value my "argument" over that of a salesman.
Did I offend your regional?
12-02-2018, 11:53 AM
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Not at TSA but it is worth noting that when I was applying to regionals they were giving out sen #s up to 3 months before classs (senority reservation) And yes this was for senority not just longevity. I had a friend who did that and he jumped over people there to go straight to a line. As far as the Skywest cadet program you accrue longevity for vacation, sick time, bonuses, travel benefits, ect. but you are jr to everyone already here.
12-02-2018, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I'm not at a regional. I think am calling you out for referring to yourself as a pro as of it's true or that it makes your opinion more valuable. Saying that actually undermines your argument and makes you look petty.
I am a pro and therefore have extensive experience and perspective that might be useful to some who are aspiring to do what I've been doing for many years. Same can be said for many other people around here, possibly including you.
I can say with utmost confidence that my opinion is more valuable (and reliable) to a noob than a recruiter's pitch.
If being a pro makes me petty than so be it. The contractor who just did my plumbing is a pro, but I didn't find him to be particularly petty.
12-07-2018, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
BS. You can't give seniority numbers to students/CFI's that would put them senior to actual TSA pilots later. No union allows that.
TSA already lets guys show up for two days of indoc, then take 6 months back wherever they are, before showing up to class with 6 months seniority already in their pocket.
