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Old 04-09-2019 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquaticus
Even during the 2008 recession there was at least 2 regionals hiring continuously throughout the lowest of the low. Colgan, Republic, Mesa/Go Jets and Skywest were filling classes. Cfi jobs were also easy pickings for anyone with decent experience. So again this victim attitude doesn't work. If you want a job there are always going to be regional jobs to put food on the table. They may not be in your choice of domicile or the most attractive but there were jobs available continuously throughout 2007-2011. If you werent able to get hired as a cfi you were probably underqualified at that time.

Staying at a regional because you are afraid of another downturn is idiotic. A regional job is easily replaceable and is in itself no way secure. Work for an airline that writes thechecks.
I agree with the 2008 recession. There was more available. I've been around a while, so I was pertaining to more of the very deep '93 recession where jobs were nil.

Sorry for all of the capitalized words in my original post.
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Old 04-09-2019 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquaticus
Even during the 2008 recession there was at least 2 regionals hiring continuously throughout the lowest of the low. Colgan, Republic, Mesa/Go Jets and Skywest were filling classes. Cfi jobs were also easy pickings for anyone with decent experience. So again this victim attitude doesn't work. If you want a job there are always going to be regional jobs to put food on the table. They may not be in your choice of domicile or the most attractive but there were jobs available continuously throughout 2007-2011. If you werent able to get hired as a cfi you were probably underqualified at that time.

Staying at a regional because you are afraid of another downturn is idiotic. A regional job is easily replaceable and is in itself no way secure. Work for an airline that writes thechecks.
SkyWest wasn’t hiring at that time. I was in one one the first classes in 2011 when they finally did start hiring.
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Old 04-09-2019 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I know there were people forced to flow involuntarily at one point. Not sure what the genesis of that was.
Prior to the hiring stopping right after 9-11. The original SupW was if you took a number, when your seniority time came, you went. They were told it never should be more than 2 years as a CA to flow....
12 years later......


I had numbered friends in class at AA that got sent back. I think originally, if you took the number you did have to go. That was all pre 9-11 though
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Old 04-09-2019 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MySaabStory
Yes. In all fairness they had to make the choice years in advance...sometimes many years. In that time some people had their circumstances in life change and felt “forced” to flow.
Numbered guys were not forced to flow after hiring resumed in 2009. They were certainly pressured by those behind them, and especially by guys who had been displaced from CA to FO when flowbacks came.
Each guy that took a number created an opening for a fkowback and an CA to FO displacement.

The first batch of 35 were guys who’d gone over and been sent back when classes cancelled on 9-11. Prior to 2001 they did indeed have to flow.
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Old 04-09-2019 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ICUROOK
There is not going to be another downturn, at least not one as bad as 2008, for a long time.
Have you looked at the credit back bubble? Or the changes at the IMF? What saved us last time wasn’t the trillions of Govt spending, that just the Govt using a credit card that you and I eventually have to pay. It was the dollar being the world currency. It’s also why so many countries have been dumping US dollars for international trade. We also lost veto ability at the IMF because Obama gave it away.

Start buying metals.
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Old 04-09-2019 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
Have you looked at the credit back bubble? Or the changes at the IMF? What saved us last time wasn’t the trillions of Govt spending, that just the Govt using a credit card that you and I eventually have to pay. It was the dollar being the world currency. It’s also why so many countries have been dumping US dollars for international trade. We also lost veto ability at the IMF because Obama gave it away.

Start buying metals.
Can you link me an article about Obama giving away veto ability at the IMF? The latest thing I could find was from 2016 and the US was going to retain veto ability.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/07/business/international/imf-breakthrough-is-seen-to-bolster-us-on-world-stage.amp.html
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Old 04-10-2019 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
Can you link me an article about Obama giving away veto ability at the IMF? The latest thing I could find was from 2016 and the US was going to retain veto ability.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/07/b...stage.amp.html
I misquoted what I read, sorry. Obama tried to give away veto authority, but the Republican congress refused to rubber stamp his approval. Obama had agreed to the change at the G20.
So there is hope yet... you still have five big members switching to alternate currency for international trading though.
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Old 04-12-2019 | 04:22 PM
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A regional lifer is some one who will retire at the regionals, and been employed by said regional for a decent amount of time.
Some one looking for a new career at the age of 55, joins a regional, isn't really a lifer, more of a pre-planned thing
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Old 04-13-2019 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxpilot
SkyWest wasn’t hiring at that time. I was in one one the first classes in 2011 when they finally did start hiring.
Also Republic furloughed early in 2008 and didn’t hire until sometime in 2010 and it was a very small number. Everyone have fun at Mesa and Gojet.
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Old 04-15-2019 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
Numbered guys were not forced to flow after hiring resumed in 2009. They were certainly pressured by those behind them, and especially by guys who had been displaced from CA to FO when flowbacks came.
Each guy that took a number created an opening for a fkowback and an CA to FO displacement.

The first batch of 35 were guys who’d gone over and been sent back when classes cancelled on 9-11. Prior to 2001 they did indeed have to flow.
Yeah. What about the 824?!
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