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Old 04-05-2019, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
I recall some senior guys got forced to flow at one point about ten years ago, some guys that didn't want to. I think there was a union controversy over that?
Sometimes people need to have adult decision made for them.

No one was ever really forced. They had Eagle rights and Flow. You had to choose at the time you upgraded to Jet captain.
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Old 04-05-2019, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
I recall some senior guys got forced to flow at one point about ten years ago, some guys that didn't want to. I think there was a union controversy over that?
Given that the top of the list has been here since the early 80's and haven't flowed, I doubt that was ever the case.
Happy to be corrected if that's not how it was.
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Old 04-06-2019, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Aquaticus View Post
That is just a poor risk assessment. On par with parking your investment cash in a money market account because "the recession is right around the corner". Every one has a risk tolerance but staying at a regional because you might get furloughed is about the same as building a castle in the woods for a zombie apocalypse. There will always be regionals hiring with fast upgrade times that will be able to replace your current income and the reward for leaving is quantifiable. Even the worst of the worst times in the industry presented an experienced pilot with employment pretty quickly. If someone gave me that excuse I would understand that their decision making is flawed or they were delusional.


ARE YOU KIDDING? Obviously you’ve never been through the few recessions of the last 25 years. And no, even the regionals weren’t hiring during the worst of economic downturns. I remember I couldn’t even get a CFI job. So spare me. And please don’t deny another economic downturn nor berate another for playing it conservative by staying at a regional.
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Old 04-06-2019, 06:01 AM
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ARE YOU KIDDING? Obviously you’ve never been through the few recessions of the last 25 years. And no, even the regionals weren’t hiring during the worst of economic downturns. I remember I couldn’t even get a CFI job. So spare me. And please don’t deny another economic downturn nor berate another for playing it conservative by staying at a regional.
There is not going to be another downturn, at least not one as bad as 2008, for a long time.
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Old 04-06-2019, 06:13 AM
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There is not going to be another downturn, at least not one as bad as 2008, for a long time.

Famous last words.


I like to go with "But this time is different!"


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Old 04-06-2019, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Leroy Smith View Post
Famous last words.


I like to go with "But this time is different!"


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I get the game you are playing. Year after year you will say "the next recession is coming, mark my words" and eventually you will be right, because everything is cyclical. You'll sit there all sumg and glowing because you will be thinking of how smart everybody thinks you are because you predicted this all along. Meanwhile what everybody is actually thinking "this d$#$#bag has been wrong year after year and then now when it finally hits, which we all knew was eventually coming, he fancies himself some type of financial expert".

Look buddy, I'm sorry flipping houses didn't go so well for you in the 00s and you lost your retirement. Here is a little tip for next time, when everybody is doing the same thing, expect things to collapse like a house of cards. The recession we saw in 2008 is a once in every 30 - 50 year recession.
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Old 04-06-2019, 11:18 AM
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There is not going to be another downturn, at least not one as bad as 2008, for a long time.
God I hope you’re right.
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Old 04-06-2019, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ICUROOK View Post
I get the game you are playing. Year after year you will say "the next recession is coming, mark my words" and eventually you will be right, because everything is cyclical. You'll sit there all sumg and glowing because you will be thinking of how smart everybody thinks you are because you predicted this all along. Meanwhile what everybody is actually thinking "this d$#$#bag has been wrong year after year and then now when it finally hits, which we all knew was eventually coming, he fancies himself some type of financial expert".

Look buddy, I'm sorry flipping houses didn't go so well for you in the 00s and you lost your retirement. Here is a little tip for next time, when everybody is doing the same thing, expect things to collapse like a house of cards. The recession we saw in 2008 is a once in every 30 - 50 year recession.
”An economist is an expert who will know tomorrow why the things he predicted yesterday didn't happen today.”

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Old 04-06-2019, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy68 View Post
”An economist is an expert who will know tomorrow why the things he predicted yesterday didn't happen today.”

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And if said economist has a sense of humor, he’ll use a decimal point.
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Old 04-06-2019, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ICUROOK View Post

Look buddy, I'm sorry flipping houses didn't go so well for you in the 00s and you lost your retirement. Here is a little tip for next time, when everybody is doing the same thing, expect things to collapse like a house of cards. The recession we saw in 2008 is a once in every 30 - 50 year recession.
How come they come every decade or so. I’ve had four in a career, every time with furloughs, no hiring anywhere. 2008 wasn’t spectacular compared to ‘82 either. An 2008 look alike could happen next year.
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