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blastboy 04-25-2007 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 155583)
Ahhhhh..................No. Two or three adjustments nose up is all that's needed, anymore and the a/c will float or climb.

As for which a/c, look at all the domiciles and choose the one that works best for you. Closest to home, number of flights, are the flights company (makes commuting MUCH MUCH easier), can you live there, does family live there, price of crash pads and what ever other questions you might have. After you have your domicile then choose your equipment. Remember that QOL (quality of life) is much more important than equipment.


Ok, that's what I figured. It didn't make sense that Canadair would make the CRJ that difficult to land. I guess it was just a sim thing or something? No clue.

320ToBearz 04-25-2007 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Sanchez (Post 155550)
Depends, I'll take a ERJ145 over a CRJ200 any day of the week.

I'll take a CRJ700 over a ERJ145 or a CRJ200 any day of the week, but I will take an E170 over CRJ700 any day of the week.

700 goes higher / faster than the baby bus 170.

schone 04-25-2007 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by blastboy (Post 155576)
My instructor has a type rating in the CRJ and said that before you flare, you have to trim full nose up. Maybe that was just in the sim but I have been wondering if that applies to the real CRJ. :?

Funny, I don't recall doing that on any of my landings, sim or the real thing. The thing loves to float if you're just a lil fast..... when you're right on, she settles nicely, no excessive maneuvers needed.

SharkyBN584 04-26-2007 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by 320ToBearz (Post 155590)
700 goes higher / faster than the baby bus 170.

Now all it has to do is climb up to that altitude and it'll be good to go :eek:

TOPDOG 04-26-2007 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by blastboy (Post 155576)
My instructor has a type rating in the CRJ and said that before you flare, you have to trim full nose up. Maybe that was just in the sim but I have been wondering if that applies to the real CRJ. :?

I flew the CRJ for 10 years and NEVER EVER used trim in the flare.

blastboy 04-26-2007 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by TOPDOG (Post 155771)
I flew the CRJ for 10 years and NEVER EVER used trim in the flare.

I have a lesson with him today so I'll ask him why they trained him that way. I think he did the sim at UND but I could be mistakened. Like I said, I can't imagine any aircraft manufacturer making their plane that difficult to land. I always imagined the CRJ as a rather docile aircraft to land.

ghilis101 04-26-2007 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by TOPDOG (Post 155771)
I flew the CRJ for 10 years and NEVER EVER used trim in the flare.

thats all pilot technique but its generally not recommended in the flare because you got more precision from control inputs. the effects of trim in the flare on most airplanes would probably occur too slowly ?

Sanchez 04-26-2007 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by ghilis101 (Post 155787)
thats all pilot technique but its generally not recommended in the flare because you got more precision from control inputs. the effects of trim in the flare on most airplanes would probably occur too slowly ?

What? Have you ever flown a jet? When you're in ground effect you're still doing about 130kts average depending on your weight and preset ref speed. The point is you still have enough flow over all the controlling surfaces, and they still have enough authority, again, once you start flying something bigger than a cessna you'll see what I'm talking about. The trim is very responsive on the flare.

FlyerJosh 04-26-2007 11:22 AM

The CRJ lands like a dream once you get the hang of it. I have yet to ride through any greasers in the ERJ. I'd choose the E170 then the CRJ then the WSCOD.

Airsupport 04-26-2007 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by blastboy (Post 155576)
My instructor has a type rating in the CRJ and said that before you flare, you have to trim full nose up. Maybe that was just in the sim but I have been wondering if that applies to the real CRJ. :?

Ok,, that almost sounds scary!!! a few helpful hints.

n1 setting on landing is pretty close to your weight card plus 20.. For example if you are landing using the 47,000lb card, your n1 setting would be very close to 67%, add a couple extra for stronger winds.

The trim setting for landing is almost exactly what it was for take off. For example if you take off with 7.2, then a VERY GOOD trim setting for landing would be very close to 7.2. once again these are just tips, and will get you very close to what you want. Time and experience will help you tweak it just right.


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