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pangolin 04-26-2019 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2809617)
I think the mainline pilots should reject flow programs all together, everyone should be off the street. Forcing people to basically work at a B scale until they flow is ridiculous, disgusting, and for all intents and purposes, a true B scale workaround, to have a true B scale.

I like the way you think.

dera 04-26-2019 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2809617)
I think the mainline pilots should reject flow programs all together, everyone should be off the street. Forcing people to basically work at a B scale until they flow is ridiculous, disgusting, and for all intents and purposes, a true B scale workaround, to have a true B scale.

Your argument makes no sense.

You're saying a regional providing feed for a mainline is fine, but if there's a flow between them, suddenly it becomes disgusting?

pangolin 04-26-2019 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2809699)
Your argument makes no sense.

You're saying a regional providing feed for a mainline is fine, but if there's a flow between them, suddenly it becomes disgusting?

Oh it’s disgusting all the way around.

Baradium 04-26-2019 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2809699)
Your argument makes no sense.

You're saying a regional providing feed for a mainline is fine, but if there's a flow between them, suddenly it becomes disgusting?

The idea is that flow programs help staff the regionals and keep pilots there. Without a flow regionals have to pay better or maybe the jobs will go to mainline increasing the number of pilots there. What a flow really does is get pilots to accept conditions they wouldn't otherwise.

dera 04-26-2019 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2809710)
The idea is that flow programs help staff the regionals and keep pilots there. Without a flow regionals have to pay better or maybe the jobs will go to mainline increasing the number of pilots there. What a flow really does is get pilots to accept conditions they wouldn't otherwise.

Really?
How does PSA fit in your scenario? They are in the top third in pay right now, and have SAP for lineholders.

tonsterboy5 04-26-2019 10:42 PM

I say drop all scope. I think it will be fun to work at southern flying United planes, or at ATI doing it. Just imagine if the majors could whipsaw acmi against each other to provide cheap lift. The majors would drastically limit their risk with less employees and planes all while having the ability to whipsaw. It’s a win win... for the airlines.

This was only meant to be sarcasm, if an airline wants to use a plane with its paint it should be on their certificate operated by their pilots and FAs.

dera 04-26-2019 10:53 PM

"All regional flying should be done by mainline" -Average regional pilot
"We will never sell scope" -80% of mainline pilots
"Give us $2 an hour and we'll think about it" -top 20% seniority mainline pilots.

Boeing Aviator 04-26-2019 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2809715)
"All regional flying should be done by mainline" -Average regional pilot
"We will never sell scope" -80% of mainline pilots
"Give us $2 an hour and we'll think about it" -top 20% seniority mainline pilots.

Not this United mainline pilot at 10 percentile on our list with 32 years of service. Our new United contract (negotiating now) will bring 76 seat flying to Mainline and will mark the beginning of the end for of the Regional industry.

dera 04-26-2019 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator (Post 2809718)
Not this United mainline pilot at 10 percentile on our list with 32 years of service. Our new United contract (negotiating now) will bring 76 seat flying to Mainline and will mark the beginning of the end for of the Regional industry.

I'm sure everyone understood that comment was made tongue in cheek.

We all, sincerely, hope you will prevail.

No Land 3 04-27-2019 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2809719)
I'm sure everyone understood that comment was made tongue in cheek.

We all, sincerely, hope you will prevail.

I don't think it was tongue in cheek. Do you think Mainline pilots like commuting into work on an RJ that used to be their own metal?


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