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trip 04-27-2019 06:32 PM

The MRJ70 is not yet built, it's planned to have 76 seats though to comply with current scope, expected in 2021. Both models will have around 2000 mile range.

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-...418-story.html

C37AFE 04-28-2019 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2810168)
Issue isn't that you provide feed, the issue is someone being forced to have to work at your company to eventually get the flow and job at AA. Essentially, it is a 8 to 10 year long interview for the job you want while providing feed at a B scale.

No one is forced to work anywhere

Baradium 04-28-2019 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by C37AFE (Post 2810324)
No one is forced to work anywhere

Unless they someday want to work at a major that has flow and aren't military.

The entire purpose of flow is to staff lower paid jobs and maintain the cost advantage of regionals.

sailingfun 04-28-2019 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 2810176)
The MRJ70 is not yet built, it's planned to have 76 seats though to comply with current scope, expected in 2021. Both models will have around 2000 mile range.

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-...418-story.html

The MRJ70 in a two class will hold about 70 passengers. It’s still over the scope weight limit of 86,000 lbs so will need to be certified in a shorter range version. It’s a heavy aircraft for the number of seats and I suspect won’t see much commercial success.

trip 04-28-2019 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2810407)
The MRJ70 in a two class will hold about 70 passengers. It’s still over the scope weight limit of 86,000 lbs so will need to be certified in a shorter range version. It’s a heavy aircraft for the number of seats and I suspect won’t see much commercial success.

Yep, geared engines are heavy in comparison.
Let's see if United pilots can pull the 76 seater in house and put an end to all this.

rickair7777 04-28-2019 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2810407)
The MRJ70 in a two class will hold about 70 passengers. It’s still over the scope weight limit of 86,000 lbs so will need to be certified in a shorter range version. It’s a heavy aircraft for the number of seats and I suspect won’t see much commercial success.

Economically, it doesn't matter if it's heavier, as long as the fuel burn is good enough. Scope is still an issue of course.

pangolin 04-28-2019 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 2810516)
Yep, geared engines are heavy in comparison.
Let's see if United pilots can pull the 76 seater in house and put an end to all this.

I don't think that's happening. I know there's some talk here but I don't think its a serious consideration by the negotiators. We shall see.

No Land 3 04-28-2019 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2810366)
Unless they someday want to work at a major that has flow and aren't military.

The entire purpose of flow is to staff lower paid jobs and maintain the B scale advantage of regionals.

Fixed it for you.

Baradium 04-28-2019 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by No Land 3 (Post 2810543)
Fixed it for you.

No, you didn't.

A B scale is an entirely different issue. The regional model is nefarious in its own way as regional pilots traditionally voted to undercut other groups to get their flying. The shortage at hand has greatly helped prevent that, but the two things are different.

There are many areas to blame for the regional model and its continuity. While I agree that the way regional pilots have been paid (and still are when in direct comparison) is shameful, there is a lot to differentiate it from a B scale.

No Land 3 04-28-2019 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2810681)
No, you didn't.

A B scale is an entirely different issue. The regional model is nefarious in its own way as regional pilots traditionally voted to undercut other groups to get their flying. The shortage at hand has greatly helped prevent that, but the two things are different.

There are many areas to blame for the regional model and its continuity. While I agree that the way regional pilots have been paid (and still are when in direct comparison) is shameful, there is a lot to differentiate it from a B scale.

You're right, it's a B scale + fewer benefits and much worse QOL.


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