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Old 04-27-2007, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski View Post
So she is a *****, just like MESA
Since you don't know her or her character, I will pretend I didn't read that comment.

All I am saying is that she supplements her income the best way she knows how based on her current circumstances. And since you are unaware of those circumstances (and I am) I think she is doing a hell of a job.

I'm sure her children will appreciate, when they can fully understand, all she is doing to provide them with the best home life, schooling, and opportunities possible.
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot View Post
Ellen - Great post. How many research assistants do you have ?
You assume I have some . . . .
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Since you don't know her or her character, I will pretend I didn't read that comment.

All I am saying is that she supplements her income the best way she knows how based on her current circumstances. And since you are unaware of those circumstances (and I am) I think she is doing a hell of a job.

I'm sure her children will appreciate, when they can fully understand, all she is doing to provide them with the best home life, schooling, and opportunities possible.

I completely disagree, Ellen....
Even if the going gets though....does that mean go out and sell your body?
I'm sure her kids appreciate it now, but if they come to find this out let's say, 10 years from now.....what then :-/
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My g/f makes more than any of our CA's and she only gets naked and dances on poles for me
Hahaha be thankful my friend.
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I completely disagree, Ellen....
Even if the going gets though....does that mean go out and sell your body?
I'm sure her kids appreciate it now, but if they come to find this out let's say, 10 years from now.....what then :-/
You can disagree all you want. (You'll know soon enough working at PSA what tough is)

Besides, where did I ever say she was selling her body? I never did say what she does there. She could waitress, bartend, manage, etc. . .

It's easy to see how many of you jumped to conclusions that she is a dancer based on two words (Gentleman's Club). In fact, many of you jump to all sorts of conclusions based upon your responses to the variety of posts in the threads on this site.

This is the primary reason why I think a DEGREE and EXPERIENCE (wisdom) is important as an airline pilot. THIS is why LOW TIME pilots should not be in the cockpit of a commercial airplane. Could you imagine if these pilots jumped to a conclusion regarding the operating safety of an aircraft with people in the back? I can imagine it, and it's quite frightening.

My suggestion is that before many of you regurgitate your thoughts, that you might want to pause a minute or two and think about what you are going to say. You would do yourself a service by sticking your foot in your mouth in private vs. in front of everyone. However, you wouldn't learn about humility that way.
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You can disagree all you want. (You'll know soon enough working at PSA what tough is)

Besides, where did I ever say she was selling her body? I never did say what she does there. She could waitress, bartend, manage, etc. . .

It's easy to see how many of you jumped to conclusions that she is a dancer based on two words (Gentleman's Club). In fact, many of you jump to all sorts of conclusions based upon your responses to the variety of posts in the threads on this site.

This is the primary reason why I think a DEGREE and EXPERIENCE (wisdom) is important as an airline pilot. THIS is why LOW TIME pilots should not be in the cockpit of a commercial airplane. Could you imagine if these pilots jumped to a conclusion regarding the operating safety of an aircraft with people in the back? I can imagine it, and it's quite frightening.

My suggestion is that before many of you regurgitate your thoughts, that you might want to pause a minute or two and think about what you are going to say. You would do yourself a service by sticking your foot in your mouth in private vs. in front of everyone. However, you wouldn't learn about humility that way.


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Ellen is a psychologist/sociologist, or has a psychology/sociology degree. No doubt.
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Originally Posted by Ellen View Post
You can disagree all you want. (You'll know soon enough working at PSA what tough is)

Besides, where did I ever say she was selling her body? I never did say what she does there. She could waitress, bartend, manage, etc. . .

It's easy to see how many of you jumped to conclusions that she is a dancer based on two words (Gentleman's Club). In fact, many of you jump to all sorts of conclusions based upon your responses to the variety of posts in the threads on this site.

This is the primary reason why I think a DEGREE and EXPERIENCE (wisdom) is important as an airline pilot. THIS is why LOW TIME pilots should not be in the cockpit of a commercial airplane. Could you imagine if these pilots jumped to a conclusion regarding the operating safety of an aircraft with people in the back? I can imagine it, and it's quite frightening.

My suggestion is that before many of you regurgitate your thoughts, that you might want to pause a minute or two and think about what you are going to say. You would do yourself a service by sticking your foot in your mouth in private vs. in front of everyone. However, you wouldn't learn about humility that way.
Sure...make $10k a night as a waitress.....
I know the difference between tv and real life....
Someone making that kind of cash in one night is only one LOGICAL explanation.
Why aren't waiters at the top of your list?!
Stop fooling yourself and just admit what your friend really is.
I'm not trying to be an @sshole here, but it's pretty obvious to the world if a WOMAN makes $10k a night at a gentlemen's club.
It makes sense...
Avg. 100 men in the club....$100 a pop...sure...$10k right there for ya, Ellen...
And this is why low time pilots arent allowed in the cockpit of an airliner?
Because we know what's real and what's not?
I don't even know what or where you fly, Ellen....but if you think your friend is making that kind of money waiting tables, bartending, w/e....then you need to resign....fast....and go out there and broaden your horizons...
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These numbers are a bit low. I am speaking of actual experience, as I have held each one of these jobs in a full time status at one time or another. Obviously, I understand that these are averaged numbers, and it will vary by region, but this is what I made while employed in theses positions.

Bulk Fuel Tanker (Semi) Driver - 72,000 per year, full benefits to include 100% 401k match up to 6 percent of pay, company paid insurance for family, and 5000 dollar yearly bonus paid December 1st. Home every day, rotating bi-weekly schedule: Sunday through Thursday week one / Sunday through Wednesday week two. (three day weekend every other week)

Auto Technician (new car dealership) - 48,000 Per year, plus one car per year at invoice. I was the lowest paid at the company as I was only there a short time. I know of people at high end dealerships making SUBSTANTIALLY more.

Bartender - I worked four nights per week, Wednesday though Saturday 5:00p.m. - 1:00 a.m, and easily brought home 1100.00 in cash per week, not including the rather small paycheck. 57,200 per year, and by far the most enjoyable job I have ever had.
I know at a local Dodge Dealership the top techs are in the 110,000 - 160,000 dollar range.
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Old 04-27-2007, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by shanejj View Post
Sure...make $10k a night as a waitress.....
I know the difference between tv and real life....
Someone making that kind of cash in one night is only one LOGICAL explanation.
Why aren't waiters at the top of your list?!
Stop fooling yourself and just admit what your friend really is.
I'm not trying to be an @sshole here, but it's pretty obvious to the world if a WOMAN makes $10k a night at a gentlemen's club.
It makes sense...
Avg. 100 men in the club....$100 a pop...sure...$10k right there for ya, Ellen...
And this is why low time pilots arent allowed in the cockpit of an airliner?
Because we know what's real and what's not?
I don't even know what or where you fly, Ellen....but if you think your friend is making that kind of money waiting tables, bartending, w/e....then you need to resign....fast....and go out there and broaden your horizons...

It seems your ego and mouth are bigger than your pocketbook. Jealous? A tad bit I believe. Not a good combination in the cockpit of an aircraft.

What? A 100 men x $100.00 (On who's budget? A regional airline pilot's working at PSA???? Maybe). How about 10 men @ $1,000? or 1 female @ $10,000? or a combination of 5 men and women @ $2,000? or et el?

It doesn't make a difference. People spend money for many reasons, and the amount they feel comfortable spending depends upon where they are located on the economic ladder. For you, $100 is a lot. For others, it's probably the amount that gets accidently sent through the wash in their pants pockets.

In addition, I'm sure all the women out there will take offense to your sexist comment that there is only one (1) thing a woman can do to earn $10,000 a night. In addition, I never said she was working weekends either.

Hopefully you'll tone down your attitude a bit as you progress through 121 training. Remember, you don't want to wash out, or you'll be black balled for at least 5 years.
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