Delta and Comair Ch.11
04-29-2007 | 02:53 PM
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Delta and Comair Ch.11
2 articles discussing the expectations of comair and delta etc.
comair: http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...=2007704290304
delta: http://www.11alive.com/news/article_...?storyid=96138
comair: http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...=2007704290304
delta: http://www.11alive.com/news/article_...?storyid=96138
04-29-2007 | 04:58 PM
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I'd like to know the breakdown of that $1 billion going back to the employees.
They spent $30mil on a lobby
A hostile takeover is a gift?
Anyway, it's obvious Delta is more concerned about their international flying than domestic. Doesn't give me much confidence in their having much need to expand on Comair.
"Analysts convinced that a sale is likely say the timing is right. With Comair's contentious labor negotiations completed and the rest of restructuring done - annual expenses have been slashed by $90 million - the regional airline is in its best financial shape in years. Delta and Comair executives acknowledged throughout bankruptcy that a sale was a possibility but restructuring was necessary to garner a worthy price."
"They're probably going to sell them," said Calyon Securities analyst Ray Neidl in New York"
"Ownership allows them the ability to control the trip experience," he said. "Most people if they have a bad experience on Comair and the Delta logo is on the plane - they're going to blame Delta."
So either Delta keeps Comair, and monitor's them closely to ensure quality control; or cuts them lose so they don't have to worry about Delta logo's on Comair airplanes tarnishing their image.
"Analysts have said Comair could wind up a subsidiary of another regional partner of Delta's, such as SkyWest, be spun-off in an initial public offering or be acquired by a private equity group."
Good thing or bad? Could a Skywest ownership improve Comair's status, "growth and profit by association"?
"About the same time its pilots union ratified concessions this spring, Comair learned it wouldn't lose any more jets from a rebidding of regional flying during the bankruptcy. That meant Comair's fleet wouldn't shrink below 130 jets after it lost 44 aircraft in restructuring."
Isn't this just saying they couldn't lose any more jets during the bankruptcy which is now over? Even if they don't lose the jets, I don't see how that is any guarantee that they couldn't be parked and not flown.
They spent $30mil on a lobby
A hostile takeover is a gift?
Anyway, it's obvious Delta is more concerned about their international flying than domestic. Doesn't give me much confidence in their having much need to expand on Comair.
"Analysts convinced that a sale is likely say the timing is right. With Comair's contentious labor negotiations completed and the rest of restructuring done - annual expenses have been slashed by $90 million - the regional airline is in its best financial shape in years. Delta and Comair executives acknowledged throughout bankruptcy that a sale was a possibility but restructuring was necessary to garner a worthy price."
"They're probably going to sell them," said Calyon Securities analyst Ray Neidl in New York"
"Ownership allows them the ability to control the trip experience," he said. "Most people if they have a bad experience on Comair and the Delta logo is on the plane - they're going to blame Delta."
So either Delta keeps Comair, and monitor's them closely to ensure quality control; or cuts them lose so they don't have to worry about Delta logo's on Comair airplanes tarnishing their image.
"Analysts have said Comair could wind up a subsidiary of another regional partner of Delta's, such as SkyWest, be spun-off in an initial public offering or be acquired by a private equity group."
Good thing or bad? Could a Skywest ownership improve Comair's status, "growth and profit by association"?
"About the same time its pilots union ratified concessions this spring, Comair learned it wouldn't lose any more jets from a rebidding of regional flying during the bankruptcy. That meant Comair's fleet wouldn't shrink below 130 jets after it lost 44 aircraft in restructuring."
Isn't this just saying they couldn't lose any more jets during the bankruptcy which is now over? Even if they don't lose the jets, I don't see how that is any guarantee that they couldn't be parked and not flown.
04-29-2007 | 05:18 PM
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God I hope SKW doesn't buy Comair. I personally think it's not going to happen but the shear thought of it terrifies me. Why? Think about the size of SKW Inc now and what it would look like after the purchase. Also think about the $hit we're going through with ASA and then you add Comair to the mix? 
Currently SKW Inc.
SKW:......................Pilots - 2660+........A/C - 263(+)
ASA:.......................Pilots - 1640?......A/C - 152
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Totals SKW Inc:.......Pilots - 4300+.........A/C - 415(+)
Add Comair:..............Pilots - 1640?......A/C - 163(-)
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Totals:.....................Pilots - 5940+.......A/C - 578(+)
That's larger than SWA, HOLLY ******, we're just a regional?
Currently SKW Inc.
SKW:......................Pilots - 2660+........A/C - 263(+)
ASA:.......................Pilots - 1640?......A/C - 152
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Totals SKW Inc:.......Pilots - 4300+.........A/C - 415(+)
Add Comair:..............Pilots - 1640?......A/C - 163(-)
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Totals:.....................Pilots - 5940+.......A/C - 578(+)
That's larger than SWA, HOLLY ******, we're just a regional?
04-29-2007 | 05:44 PM
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Anyone with the info able to offer a comparison of XJT's situation (planes, pilots, debt, etc.) when they were spun off to Comair's right now?
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