It certainly doesn’t seem to be the case at my regional, but I have a number of friends at other regionals who indicate they are seeing long reserve times with very little flying hours, sometimes single digits a month. In some cases (Horizon) even lineholders don’t seem to be getting much time. They are getting PAID of course, at least minimum guarantee, but for the junior people there (and I’m talking junior in flying hours) they are not accumulating turbine 121 time or TT at a very good rate.

Could be when the peak of the retirement wave hits in 3-4 years that having 3000 TT with maybe 500 TPIC will be enough to be competitive, I don’t know, but unless utilization rates change it seems unlikely some of the new hires will have much more than that, especially the RATP guys.

And this has to be costing management some money. I just don’t get it.

 

That's the conclusion I've come to at my regional, though I have not heard one person say so.

 

Other than Horizon, which ones are you referring to?

 

Mesa on there earnings call said they were “wearhousing” as you call it. By 100 pilots. Horizon air has mentioned the same...

 

Lol they lie, they wouldn't be paying 300 percent for open time if we were staffed.

 

I think that’s illegal, except in Nevada.....oh, wait. Never mind.

 

Endeavor has a warehouse full of pilots because "growth!"

PSA has a warehouse full of pilots because the airline needs a place to find pilots the next time that their scheduling software crashes.

Horizon has a warehouse full of pilots because they don't want to get fired by Alaska this time.

Brickyard not only has a warehouse full of pilots, but they also have a factory in which they build pilots. That's vertical integration to the next level.

 

I think they were all thinking there was going to be some kind of scope relief from UAL and there would all of a sudden be a lot of new flying. Those with the pilots to staff it would get it, and they could charge more for that due to decreased bid competition. Thankfully UAL pilots dind't give an inch on scope relief (thus far).

 

Comment yesterday on the Endeavour thread:

 

I’m not sure if Brickyard has a “warehouse” full of pilots, although we are getting on the fat side. However reserve times are still low and upgrade times are 2 years and still decreasing along with a lot of the more senior guys finally moving on. As far as I know there is no issues of people not flying.