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Originally Posted by TXTECHKA (Post 159916)

Getting paid nothing the first and second was no illusion. Everyone knows that the pay sucks for a while before they started. Get your time and move on and go corporate or to a major or cargo or something. Who plan's on staying at a regional for good anyway?

No one ever plans on making a regional as a career. The reality is that most will end up getting stuck there anyway.

SkyHigh

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Originally Posted by bluebravo (Post 159918)

Im just going to stop posting here. Its just a steady decline in maturity around here.

Hahaha, welcome to airlinepilotforums.com my friend ;)

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Originally Posted by CE750 (Post 159915)

Oh heck! I'm at a loss for words (rare).. :rolleyes:

hehe... we're gonna relish this moment, CE750! :p

Anyway, yeah- the pay can suck at first. I was making over $80k a year working in flight ops at a Japanese carrier while instructing- total income of over $110k a year.... now I've come to the dark side, and make $23/hr.

Yeah, it sucks- but the office sure has a nice view!! :D

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Originally Posted by aero550 (Post 159867)

If all you are ever thinking about is money, you're going to drive yourself crazy your whole career. Someone is ALWAYS making more than you, I don't care who you are.

And, on top of all that, the wealthiest people are not always the happiest.

I'm not advocating that everyone should be content with $19/hour, but you've got to remember that this is a STARTING pay, and a market driven one, at that. If nobody took the job, the pay would go up - simple as that.

-why else do we work>?
-it's more about "how in the hell am i gonna pay the bills?"
-you're ideals don't fair well in the real world
ps, you're in for a rude awakening

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Originally Posted by bluebravo (Post 159918)

Im just going to stop posting here. Its just a steady decline in maturity around here.

Oh, come on man, grow a set. You couldn't possibly have thought that what you originally posted was going to provoke thoughtful, grown up conversation, could you?

Comparing starting regional pilot pay to Wal-Mart employee pay? That comparison is not even on the same planet.

Truthfully, I didn't see anything immature about the responses (not nearly as much as I expected), not sure what you're talking about there, either.

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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot (Post 159969)

-why else do we work>?
-it's more about "how in the hell am i gonna pay the bills?"
-you're ideals don't fair well in the real world
ps, you're in for a rude awakening

I'm doing fine, thanks. I don't fly for the airlines.;) Been doing this awhile, and am quite awake, but I started at the bottom just like everybody else.

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Originally Posted by TXTECHKA (Post 159901)

if you won't to work at wal mart go do it. I had a friend in high school whose dad was a manager at wal mart. He finally went back to school so he could do something else because he hated it so much. You won't catch me complaining because some wal mart manager is making more money than me. If you don't like your job find something else to do, it's not that complicated. Complaining about it on a forums isn't going to do anything to raise pay.

You don't have to complain, but you sure as h&ll better not be happy with the situation, and you had better be thinking about ways to improve things and communicating with your fellow pilots. A lot of what goes on on this and other boards is actually communicating, although the tone often sounds like bitching.

$100K is bare-minimum pay to support a family these days...you might also get a couple dirt bikes, an RV, or a ski boat out of the deal but you're not going to have a vacation home in the mountains or a big house in a nice neighborhood. Unless you plan really well, you will still be looking at college loans for the kids too.

The only place where a regional pilot can actually get ahead on $100K is in one of those nice rural towns that happens to have a nearby pilot domicile. $100K can get you a ranch house and a few acres in place like that, where prices are lower due to the lack of higher-paying jobs.

so why are there so many regional lifers who love the idea of topping out at 100K?

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Originally Posted by TXTECHKA (Post 159916)

Ask anybody hired at a regional in late spring or early summer 2001 what their career plans were...now ask them where life happens to find them. Only then you might find better insight to your question...

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Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 159978)

$100K is bare-minimum pay to support a family these days...you might also get a couple dirt bikes, an RV, or a ski boat out of the deal but you're not going to have a vacation home in the mountains or a big house in a nice neighborhood. Unless you plan really well, you will still be looking at college loans for the kids too.

The only place where a regional pilot can actually get ahead on $100K is in one of those nice rural towns that happens to have a nearby pilot domicile. $100K can get you a ranch house and a few acres in place like that, where prices are lower due to the lack of higher-paying jobs.

Don't get me wrong...I make near the highest 50 seat RJ FO pay in the industry and know I am underpaid...but reading statements like these two paragraphs above really makes me wonder just what kind of lifestyle are you living or seeking?:eek:

Call me crazy, but I don't aspire to have a "vacation home in the mountains" or a "big house in a nice neighborhood". A 1600 sq ft, 3bd/2ba ranch on a quarter acre is what I grew up in and I would be totally satisfied raising my family in one. Guess my priorities are just different...