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Originally Posted by Freightpuppy (Post 160157)

Interesting.....

my mom worked, dad was alcoholic and killed himself and I am a nurse and airline pilot.

my high school best friend's mom was an at home mom, dad was around and the last time I talked to her, she was telling me she wanted to try to shoot up heroin.

Do you wear white Thigh-Highs by any chance?:p :rolleyes: :cool:

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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 160160)

Do you wear white Thigh-Highs by any chance?

Nah! I heard Hotmamapilot does under her brown pants though. :D

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Your not kidding, sad this fella thinks $50,000.00 a year is a good income

That is not the point. If you have no debt from college or flight school it is a good salary. If you haven't had to live for 4-5 years below 20,000 it is good money. Most pilots start out behind the power curve. I went to college and then to flight school. Timed it just right to start my career August 2001. I am 30 and just now making mid 40's. I spent the last 3-4 years making in the 18-20,000 range trying like hell to get the hours to move on to better things. If I had been making 50,000 a year with no school debt all along, I would be doing fine right now. As it is I was servicing my debts, but not paying them off over the last few years. Now I am finally making enough to have disposable income, but it is all going to trying to pay off school loans. I might have my flight school and college paid off by 35. Then maybe I can start saving for retirement or maybe buy a house. BTW, I am not as bad off as a lot of people. I only owe 35K on my education.

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Originally Posted by ghilis101 (Post 159986)

so why are there so many regional lifers who love the idea of topping out at 100K?

with the exception of brown or purple.......what else is there?

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Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 160003)

Don't get me wrong...I make near the highest 50 seat RJ FO pay in the industry and know I am underpaid...but reading statements like these two paragraphs above really makes me wonder just what kind of lifestyle are you living or seeking?:eek:

Call me crazy, but I don't aspire to have a "vacation home in the mountains" or a "big house in a nice neighborhood". A 1600 sq ft, 3bd/2ba ranch on a quarter acre is what I grew up in and I would be totally satisfied raising my family in one. Guess my priorities are just different...

kudos to you dude.....some of these folks just don't get it:confused:

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first.. do you REALLY think a teacher (assuming it's a woman) wasn't married to a man who worked? And if indeed it was a male and his wife didn't work.. $50K would not have been enough to live on in most parts of Phoenix.. I happen to know that the average income in most zipcodes in Phoenix (a cheap place by national standards) if closer to $75K..

Wake up kid.

edit: btw, my wife was a teacher and saw first hand the difference between kids who's mom says home and those who's mom works.. let's just say it was significant.

1. It was a male teacher and the mom did not work. I knew the family personally.

2. I don't live in Phoenix, nor out in the country somewhere. There are over 1 million people in the metropolitan area. Moderate size. A family could live off 50k, and live in a nice neighborhood. I never said it was like this everywhere.

3. I wasn't talking about anything having to do with kids and the difference between mom at home and mom at work. I don't care.

4. Now it's your turn to wake up.

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Don't you get it?........................thats the fun part of life, boats, cars, vacations, nice clothes....you are happy wearing your walmart cloths and making 50k a year?????????????????? Management's wet dream.................."I dont work for money", than what do you work for?

I wasn't talking about anything having to do with the airline industry.
One guy said 100k was the "bare minimum" to raise a family on. I have an example of where that is not true. If YOU want to have boats, cars, extravagant vacations, and you think those things are important, 100k is probably the minimum. However, if someone does not think those things are important, 50k is sufficient. Fun to you may not be fun to someone else. This family that I know is quite happy with their life. It is a matter of where your priorities are, and what is important yo you.

For the airline part, I believe pilots are severely underpaid. How many passengers a day/month/year are pilots responsible for? How many lives? One wrong step and 15-70 people, on the regional airline level, are dead. Great responsibility should come with above average pay. The skills that pilots possess are invaluable, and pilots should be paid as such. Until airline management recognizes how invaluable and unique the skill set that pilots possess actually is, pay will not increase.

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Originally Posted by CE750 (Post 160053)

because their idea of a good life is a 6 pack of cheap beer from Walmart and a 15' fishing boat in their driveway hooked up to their jacked up F250.. Not putting two gifted kids thru a good university and paying for it, all the while trying to live in a safe neighborhood, drive a safe and relatively new car and have a decent vacation every two or three years..

ya, because you can't do that on 100k(sarcasm).......hsld if you wanna expell me, go for it. i'm callin this guy a dummy!

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Originally Posted by BoilerUP http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...s/viewpost.gif
Don't get me wrong...I make near the highest 50 seat RJ FO pay in the industry and know I am underpaid...but reading statements like these two paragraphs above really makes me wonder just what kind of lifestyle are you living or seeking?:eek:

Call me crazy, but I don't aspire to have a "vacation home in the mountains" or a "big house in a nice neighborhood". A 1600 sq ft, 3bd/2ba ranch on a quarter acre is what I grew up in and I would be totally satisfied raising my family in one. Guess my priorities are just different...

Right on!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot (Post 160264)

kudos to you dude.....some of these folks just don't get it:confused:

oh we get it...........................

People who are unable to motivate themselves must be content with mediocrity, no matter how impressive their other talents.
Andrew Carnegie

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Originally Posted by flynavyj (Post 160103)

CE750's post was great, i think the real arguments in this industry come because everyone of us has a different outlook on what a "nice house" and a "nice, and relatively new" car is. I was born and raised in the midwest and love it here, fortuantely, housing costs are pretty low compared to say new england, or california.

I'm not sure about you, but my fiance' could care less what car she was driving as long as it was reliabile, which means it could be a civic or a bmw, and she'd care none the less, as i recal new civics are normally cheaper than reliable bmw's (if those two words can go together).

And somehow, my parents managed to put me through college and neither of them are making 6 figures...akward.

i think you need to read his post again,....as you are clueless