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flyeastcoast 09-10-2019 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by Pilotchute (Post 2884271)
Have we seen the end of it? My Regional has had full classes for 9 months now. Republic and many other regionals have full indoc classes for the next 6 month minimum.

Is this the new normal?

How accurate is your info. on Republic? I am interviewing in a week and 5-6 month is actually ideal for me to start as I have a few commitments to get over with.

NovemberBravo 09-10-2019 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by Sloneckozzz (Post 2884298)
https://www.reddit.com/r/flying/comm...ne_pilots_age/

Strongly advise looking at these numbers.

I would love to see regional retirements incorporated into this. Lots of guys in their 50s

BugSmasher15 09-10-2019 05:57 AM

In my opinion there is a pilot shortage and it is definitely a pilot’s market. However, the jobs with decent pay and better QOL will never have a problem finding pilots. The jobs that have lower pay and QOL and still had people lined up to work for them because no other flying jobs were available is now no longer happening. We are really struggling at my Part 91 flight department, as well as other flight departments in the area to find people to staff the airplanes. I know people, myself included are leaving part 91/135 gigs to get on with the regionals and LCCs with better pay and work rules than our current jobs. I believe the jobs that are abusive to pilots will eventually die out or will be forced to change for better QOL and work rules for pilots. The jobs that make things better for pilots will thrive and have no problems finding quality applicants. Just my .02.

Mesabah 09-10-2019 06:33 AM

There was a pay shortage, not a lack of pilots.

Meow1215 09-10-2019 06:37 AM

There is no pilot shortage!
There never was.
There will always be more pilots than “desirable” jobs.
Desirable meaning pay and QOL.

rickair7777 09-10-2019 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by NovemberBravo (Post 2884495)
I would love to see regional retirements incorporated into this. Lots of guys in their 50s

I think there's a bubble there too but will come later than the legacies by about ten years. But it will be a small bubble because many of them will get on with majors in the next five years (easily worth it at age 55, especially if the kids are out of the house and you can live without picking your days off for a couple years).

Longhornmaniac8 09-10-2019 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by flyeastcoast (Post 2884425)
How accurate is your info. on Republic? I am interviewing in a week and 5-6 month is actually ideal for me to start as I have a few commitments to get over with.

It's not accurate at all, and hasn't been for 2-3 months. We've opened more class dates and there's not much of a wait these days.

A CJO should be good for 6 months, so just tell them what your timetable is and they should work with you.

ChecklistMonkey 09-10-2019 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2884553)
There is no pilot shortage!
There never was.
There will always be more pilots than “desirable” jobs.
Desirable meaning pay and QOL.

Haiku attempt?

Meow1215 09-10-2019 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey (Post 2884659)
Haiku attempt?

I lack that type of creativity, it’s a coincidence.

tomgoodman 09-10-2019 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey (Post 2884659)
Haiku attempt?

It’s not worth committing Haiku over. 😫


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