Is the pilot shortage over?

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09-15-2019, 06:12 PM

#81

DarkSideMoon

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Originally Posted by symbian simian

Scheduled 15 days off/ month, $1K every day over. Knew my schedule up to a year in advance. Never pushed & had ASAP. Didn't apply for any regionals when the company went under.

So it was great until you were unemployed?

09-16-2019, 08:52 AM

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jetlag q

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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey

A bonus is just that. You sign now, you get paid. You have a type rating, you get paid more. The airline is effectively paying for a very expensive training and rating and all you have to do is sign a piece of paper. That isn't a narrative. That is just a fact. And this program isn't far removed from the days when new hires were unpaid until the end of training or had to pay for the type themselves. There companies aren't doing this out of the kindness of their heart.

Thanks for clearing that up for him

09-16-2019, 07:12 PM

#83

No Land 3

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There is no shortage of pilots at companies that pay healthy six figure salaries and offer a great QOL.

09-19-2019, 08:36 AM

#84

takingmessages

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Hmmmmmmmm...
Food for thought.
From:
https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...tional/flexjet
First line:
NEW COMPENSATION: FIRST OFFICERS STARTING PAY AT $100,000

I know that's pointing to something, but I dunno what...

09-19-2019, 12:43 PM

#85

SonicFlyer

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Originally Posted by takingmessages

Yeah but it requires an ATP and 500 hours of turbine time.

09-19-2019, 04:08 PM

#86

Mrhr5b

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It’s a little misleading. There preferred mins include gems like 500 hours instrument time. There true year 1 pay works out to roughly 85k at the $421*202days rate that apc has listed for them. So to reach that 100k they include things like bonuses and per diem. It also looks like fo pay is stagnant for 4 years(it’s better than captain pay at my regional, just saying)

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09-21-2019, 07:22 AM

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Irishblackbird

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Originally Posted by takingmessages

You best go to the fractional forum and see what the flex guys are saying. Frac flying is a heck of a lot different than 121. Also to recuperate the cost of an airline ticket to move you around you'll be out 8 days and home 6. Eight days on the road is a long time. Hope you like customer service, loading bags, cleaning and stocking the cabin in between revenue flights and not knowing where you are going until you check into the hotel 14 hours later. As an airline pilot you go down the jet bridge and turn left. I've done both, and 121 is way easier. I'm not knocking fractionals, as they tend to take care of you better on the road, better hotels, crew meals (pretty much pocket your perdiem), contractual that you keep all your airline miles and hotel points, and you pocket extra money like tips and fuel points from FBOS that add up quickly depending on the plane you fly.

Your real question should be, what is your end goal. Make it to a legacy 121, and make more over a career then a frac guy, or fly for fractional and make a decent amount over a career and definitely more than a regional.