Bascuela

For you guys in groundschool or who know:

I'm a new hire and studying the CRJ packet. What is expected to be memorized prior to showing? The whole thing or just the random gray boxed items. For an example, on the emergency memory items most but not all of the items are "gray boxed". Is the test the same one in the back of the packet? Thanks.

rickair7777

Just the highlighted stuff. Although at my first airline we had to memorize ALL limitations and ALL of the emergency procedures.

JetJock16

No, your first week of class is Indoc so they won’t test you on systems. On the first day of systems which is week 2 (Monday) you’ll receive the Limitations and Memory Items (know as the EP&L, Emergency Procedures & Limitations) test BUT it's only practice. You'll have to know all the 200 EP&L Items that are underlined, verbatim. After you complete the practice test you'll hand it to the person next to you and they'll grade it. After completion the instructor will tell you the test is practice and now you know what you have to work on. BUT understand that when you actually take the EP&L test, on Tuesday of the last week, you're only allowed to miss 2 or 3, any more and you fail (have to take it over). Missing 2 or 3 in my mind is unacceptable; you shouldn’t miss any after you take the practice test (get to keep) which is the EXACT test as the final EP&L test. Failing the test will count as one strike and you only get three strikes through out training which includes ground, sim and IOE. BUT if you can't complete IOE in 50 hours then that's it, it's over for you no exceptions, not to worry I only know of 1 or 2 that had this problem out of 800 or so they've hired in the last year.

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They used to require you to memorize it all, now it’s just the underlined ones. This was too hard for some, so to keep with tradition, they reduce standards continuing with low pay which attracts lower quality employees. Not personally saying you’re a lower quality employee, just that’s the trend. Soon, just show up to class and if you can remember some you will be fine.

ghilis101

haha sounds like you're bitter that they made the memory items easier?

at any rate, last time i heard, nobody has EVER failed skywest training for this. we had a guy in my new hire class fail that test twice, and then he failed the systems test, and then he failed the 700/900 differences test. then he had to do a couple extra sims cuz he wasnt ready for the checkride. Now hes out on the line and he's doing well.

moral of the story, youll be fine

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Im bitter, cause they will cut corners to meet their first year budget. Soon just show up, and as long as you can fill out a manifest and get the plane out on time great. Who cares if you have no clue about the aircraft you fly the captain should right?

ghilis101

well thats skywest culture for you. its captain captain captain. Trust me i was bugging the training department about it but they said thats just they way theyve always done it. I see your concern bla, but at least the captain upgrade makes sure those guys are ready.

Along the same lines, show me another airline where the PF has to make his own positive rate, altitude, and approach minimums callouts? That bothered the crap out of me. i felt like a single pilot. That needs to be changed asap. theres a reason two people sit up front.

Skywest should call it PF (pilot flying) and PDNBT (Pilot doesnt need to be there)

rickair7777

I agree with this, their culture is somewhat CA-centric.

Bascuela

thanks for the responses

ghilis101

hey bascuela, was ALF a puppet or a midget wearing a costume? most of the time you could never see his feet so I thought he was a puppet, but then sometimes they would show a quick full body shot of him walking, which leads me to believe its a midget...