I used to go out the with FAs routinely when I was at the regionals, even one on one. As far as "extra-curricular" activities, I am not attracted to 95% of the FAs out there to begin with, so the handful of instances I've ended up alone with an attractive FA are pretty few and far between.

I am more careful now that I'm at a major, but we only stay with the FAs on international long stay overnights. I'll still go out sometimes depending on the crew, but I usually end up ditching them at some point to go do my own thing. I've only had one instance where I went out one on one with an FA and it wasn't even planned. We got to the hotel late, I told the whole crew what I was doing and invited whoever along, one younger cute FA showed up, and off we went.

Sure, stay in public and stay professional, but also be normal and not weird. Women can smell the awkward and standoff-ish types from miles away and that actually hurts your cause believe it or not. They take notice in these things and then you become "that guy" at the company and it puts you on their radar.

Things like not sharing an elevator with the FAs, refusing to allow female FAs in the cockpit during a lav break, etc...will paint you as a sexist and the whole problem you're trying to avoid will keep coming back to haunt you.

“Professional” but you won’t fly with women. Sure buddy.

You never answered me earlier, what do you do when they give you a female reserve? Call in sick? Gopro the whole flight?

It’s never happened. There are way more female FOs than captains at the regional level so statistically it’s not really something I’m worried about, at least for now. I tend to fly with line holders and know who they are in advance anyway. Female FOs don’t stick around long enough to be captains here before being called by delta, JetBlue, United, etc.

Lose the attitude.

What would you “pros” do when paired with a female F/O, Captain or F/A for a 16-day trip? Days in SYD, LON, HNL, or some really godforsaken place like Africa. Come on, women are humans without cooties. Sound like a bunch of high schoolers.

GF

Last post, but good luck in this industry with that gigantic chip on your shoulder and that winner attitude.

Hint- if you ever get a mainline interview, please make sure to tell them that you require at least one other man in the room so you’re comfortable.

the # in #metoo turns from a pound while drinking into a hashtag social statement when the husband finds out.

Imagine if he has an interview panel that's all female. He would have to politely say thank you but I cannot enter the room unless we get a man in here.

He's actually Mike Pence pretending to be a regional airline F/O. ;)

He wears a body cam obviously.

This thread is depressing. People are so fearful of the #metoo movement that they won't get in an elevator with a woman or fly with a female pilot? Crazy times.

Sure I haven't been accused of anything by a FA before, but maybe because I also haven't put myself in a weird position with a FA. If you've made it this far as a pilot and you can't figure out good ideas from bad ideas with the opposite sex at work, that's shocking.

Either that or there's a lot of socially inept pilots out there.

I don't think that will be a problem because I doubt he'll ever make it to an interview panel

Just to be sure and to avoid the awkward moment, he should put that in his application.

This thread might be serious, or it might be a.....

http://dauphinislandmarina.com/wp-co...tournament.jpg

Dont dip pen in company ink no matter what job it is

Clearly some of you rookies don't know how to act around women at work :rolleyes:

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f76_1323277426

That was hysterical!

A sizable chunk of attractive women act this way only because too many men LET them!

Just like the regionals (until 5 yrs ago) could get away with poverty wages, because pilots allowed themselves to work for not a lot of $$, then when they finally got sick and tired of being treated so poorly, all the sudden pay was drastically increased.

No different in the dating/relationship world!

It's true because some of you Lotharios think with the little head and not the big one! I have zero sympathy for "men" like that.

I hope you'd agree there are crazy dudes out there, too, who prey on women and treat them as a conquest.

No one is denying that at all. It’s because the vast majority of men are “touchy, grabby, feely” douchebags that we’ve found ourselves at this point in society. I was fortunate that my parents taught me to keep my hands to myself and to not say anything that I wouldn’t feel comfortable having broadcast over a PA speaker. But, I’m still a middle aged white dude. That means I’m lumped into the same category as trump, Weinstein, Lauer, etc. It’s just easier for my own mental health to completely avoid any and all scenarios that might give the slightest hint of impropriety.

I have no problem working with my female coworkers. I just keep it absolutely professional and will never socialize off the aircraft.

I dislike the honey/sweety/baby crowd.
She’s wearing a name tag, for a reason, that’s her name.
Adress her as such.

"Sweaty?" I've seen and heard it all, but never been called sweaty!!
:D :p

Well, he has that effect on women I guess. ;)

Yeah I get all sweaty when I see a sweety.....
My phone has been drinking.

LNL76: has zero sympathy for men that think with their “little head.”


Also LNL76: no sympathy for men who try to avoid being falsely accused of thinking with their “little head.”

This is not the attitude of a trusted crew member. They don't want you to protect yourselves. If you do protect yourself, you’re a pig in their eyes. If you don’t make efforts to protect yourself, you still get to be a pig in their eyes AND you will always be at the mercy of whatever they feel is appropriate, not what you knew to be appropriate. Like LNL76 stated at various times in this thread, there is no mercy, no sympathy for either kind of man. All that matters is power. When you remove yourself from any non-public interaction with them, they lose power. They hate that.

Give them no opportunity.

Big oof. Turn off the CNN, go outside, take a deep breath.

Just having your pen near the inkwell is all it takes.

Riiiight! GTHOH!
:mad:

^^^^this guy gets it

Not at all, almost all of the falsely accused men, made mistakes. Not criminal ones, but conduct mistakes.

So men get on here and say that they won't ride an elevator or have a beer in public because they they'll get accused, when the men actually getting accused have their pants off at some point in the accusation.

Personally, I've never taken my pants off either in the bar OR the elevator.

THIS

In other words, don’t be a jerk. If you’re married, act like your wife is watching. If you’re single, act like your boss is watching.

When I got my first leadership position, my supervising sergeant said “treat people like your commander and their mother are both watching, and you’ll never go wrong.”

You can be taskmaster and critique performance humanely and productively, while not being insulting. You can be a leader who team-builds without crossing any lines.

Or, you can not build those skills. Each of us should choose what works best for us. But it’s a little ridiculous to hear men whine about not having power when — if you ask around — each of us is surrounded by sisters, wife’s, mothers and girlfriends who’ve been demeaned, groped, harassed and abused without recourse for decades because “boys will be boys.”

Time to grow up, men.

Me either!

The article reports “A helicopter with heat-sensing gear located pilot Bradford hiding behind a shed, his only attire flip-flops and a wristwatch.”

What’s really awesome is that, even in the throes of passion, his Big Pilot Watch stayed on duty so that, no matter what, he would make his show time.

No surprise Big D saw his long term potential and scooped him up!

Why choose?

Perhaps not, but tying together isolated incidents into a life-altering “pattern” across human interaction in every field could be a sign of paranoia, or perhaps just poorly developed reasoning and logic skills.

But you do you, there are internet chat forums for guys like you. If you think you’re “safe” from unfounded sexual allegations in a cockpit with me you’re right, but all other assertions will be quite well-founded...and self-acknowledged, apparently, despite some efforts to help you out here.

Wow. The level of batshiat rationalization going on in this thread is ludicrous, even by pilot self-absorption standards. For the Elevator People: You’re afraid of women. The road to recovery begins with acceptance.

It’s you’re word against mine. You can’t deny that your word carries more weight than any mans word.

I’m not playing a game that has the odds stacked against me. The house always wins unless enough people don’t play.

If my word “carries more weight” than yours, it’s because those doing the weighing find me (1) more credible (2) more rational and/or (3) not paranoid. Or perhaps I’ve just not made a bunch of indefensible written statements in a public forum.

Oh, “bro,” by the way I’m just another dude...or is it so hard for you to believe another male would not agree with you? How DO I (and so many others evidenced on this board) ever manage to get by? What danger we are in...!

Maybe it's time to not engage this individual any more. He obviously has enough on his plate and needs to focus on avoiding evil females who surround him.

“What danger we are in...!”

Were you trying to ask a question there? You probably shouldn’t think of yourself as more credible or rational when you write like that.

You use the word “indefensible” but I don’t think you know what it means. I’ve posted examples I’ve seen with with my own eyes.

You may not think you’re in any danger now, but like I said, give it a few years.