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ok relax...........................:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 161542)

ok relax...........................:rolleyes:

I am relaxed... Still in hotel bed on an overnight in BTV:cool:

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Originally Posted by s10an (Post 161544)

I am relaxed... Still in hotel bed on an overnight in BTV:cool:

haha Im in my hotel bed in Moncton hehe

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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 161547)

haha Im in my hotel bed in Moncton hehe

Same lifestyle, different opinions:)

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Originally Posted by s10an (Post 161533)

Well i have to disagree.. I assume you have been an instructor yourself in the past. I was teaching at a 141 school where you follow a syllabus. You absolutly have to approach different students in different ways. This applies from a fresh student pilot to someone going for a type-rating. I personally know 200 hr pilots making it through the sim and 2000 hr pilots busting in sim.. It isnt as black and white as you make it sound like.

Well in 121 training the airline, not the student, is paying the tab. As a GA cfi you can tailor all of the extra training that the student needs AND is willing to pay for.

Level-D sims cost as much as small airliners, and cost about $1000/hour to operate. Airline sim instructors have a very packed syllabus which they are required to cover. Some of the syllabus is checkride prep (ie practice) and some of it is just one-time-only "exposure" events (like dual-engine flame-our, loss of all AC) which doesn't help much with the checkride but still has to be covered. The instructors DO NOT have any discretion to provide addtional sim sessions for those who get behind. Management makes that decsion based on your percieved attitude, ground school grades, and affirmative action modifers. If you get any extra sessions, it will be one or just maybe two at the most.

About the only thing an instructor can do is tailor his "bedside manner" to match the students personality.

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Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 161572)

About the only thing an instructor can do is tailor his "bedside manner" to match the students personality.

that being said, an instructor can also make a students life a living hell. any instructor can take even the best pilot and find a way to cause him or her to fail a checkride. not saying that it happens more than rarely, but those instructors can turn your profile ugly real quick.

Wow! I've never started a thread that went 2 pages so fast! I hope I dont have the same problems when I am in training @ X-jet...:)
I gotta go to work now, see ya around 11p.

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Originally Posted by ghilis101 (Post 161576)

100% true. The mesa dash-8 training staff was (and still is as far as I know) well know for pre-selecting failures. Not just new-hires, but also line pilots who managed to PO one of the dash good-ol-boyz would be guaranteed to fail their next several PCs. It was common for pilots to quit when they found out that the "word was out" on them.

Average washout rate when I went through the schoolhouse at XJT was 2 in every 16. Both the ones in my class were low timers. The first one to go was just due to attitude problems, the second kept having issues flying the sim.

I wouldn't say all low timers are guaranteed to washout- I've seen 500 hour guys fly as well as 5000 hour guys. At the end of the day, we can even train a monkey to fly this thing- hey, look at Saab, he's doin it! ;) :p

They keys to making it through 121 training are preparation, attitude and persistence. With the right combination of those three you'll be fine.

Now go study your limitations and flows!!c:D