Originally Posted by MBM1 (Post 162013)

:rolleyes: What should the next step be after a 121 washout? Should I go to all ATP and go through their CRJ program, is it worth it? Would it help getting back in?

Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 162095)

I probably wouldn't do the CRJ program unless you can't get any other job offers. In your case it might help a little, but only if your cash supply is unlimited.

I'm assuming you failed sim. If you failed groundschool it will be tougher for you because groundschool usually requires only a lot of effort, not skill or experience.

In the current hiring environment I suspect that you will be able to get back on the horse fairly quickly. A few airlines might flat-out reject you based on a wash-out (Eagle used to have that policy, but they are desperate now), but most would see you as someone who has more experience with 121 training than a CFI on the street. You at least know the hurdles involved, and were not scared away from trying again. Most CFI's have no idea what they're getting themselves into.

You need to honestly analyze your performance and figure out what you did wrong, and be able to articulate how you are prepared to correct the problem the second time around. If you honestly got sick or had major family problems, that would be a legit excuse (three guys in my first airline class got divorce papers during training, one of them actually still graduated by some miracle.)

Also get some significant instrument flying practice (probably in a SIM). You know what you were weak on, but having instruments down to the point where they are second-nature frees up some mental horsepower for other tasks (such as exploding engines at the MAP).

The good news is that once you qualify at a 121 carrier and get some time under your belt, this incident will be less significant to your long-term career prospects. As long as it's a one-time thing, most future employers will write it off to inexperience since it was your first 121 event. Good Luck!

Originally Posted by s10an (Post 161516)

I did my training at Trans States, and they had the same problem around christmas. But my class had 2 of 20 wash out, and i have heard it has stayed like that since.

I think this might be because Sim instructors havent been used to low timers and needed to approach new hires different.

Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 162289)

NO, it's because LOW TIMERS don't have the experience to fly a JET! Has nothing to do with the instructors. Most LOW TIMERS are just NOT ready.

Originally Posted by ghilis101 (Post 162293)

thats too general of a statement ellen. they are capable of being ready