Quick, let’s rebadge it and fluff it up and hope no one realizes that the polished turd is being rolled in glitter.

Somebody is either jealous or had no desire to go to United in the first place.

The latter. Still, the CPP type programs are inferior to a flow in so much as flows are binary in the way they operate.

To put context into my post, I had only about 18 months to go on my flow and moved on to the gig I have wanted for a long time.

Maybe I’m missing something, but I don’t see anything about the aviate program that’s any different from applying off the street. Please enlighten me as to what advantage the uax pilots are getting?

Not trying to be sarcastic, I’m serious.

The advantage (a huge one) is that they are given the Hogan automatically. For an off the street your application has to be scored and you hope to get the invite. Big advantage.

It was just announced on 10/3/2019, so two weeks.

2yrs/2000hrs is a minimum - it's still going to be seniority based within each regional, so I seriously doubt anyone is going to move anytime soon at 2yrs and 2000hrs.

People who are already at a partner UAX regional have until 12/20 to apply. That group is the 1st wave and within that wave, seniority within your company determines the order that people go (after they pass the assessments, pass the interview, etc, and get a CJO).

After that, it's a first-in-first-out process based on either application date or CJO date (I have not gotten clarity on that question yet).

No goal numbers mentioned other than "10,000 pilots"....

https://unitedaviate.com/

It’s an attempt at the Delta Propel along with the old CPP with a stated goal of being the fastest route to a legacy airline. Soon college kids will have a CJO with UA and will only need 2000 regional hours to move on. It also helps staff the UAX regionals which will help them shrink the amount of flying YX and OO brands that think their pilots are special and not replaceable.

The UA claim is that it will be the fastest path for non-military. But it's light on details, so hard to tell. An allegedly highly-respected airline hiring consultant made a presentation to a class I was in several weeks ago and she said 1700TPIC was competitive at the big 6 for regional non-mil pilots with BS degree. So that's at least 4-5 yrs optimistically. This is probably better. But it looks like a trap for former military who are at a regional to refresh their resume/time.

What I think is a little unnerving is that they are going to interview brand new regional FOs and even trainees just like they would interview a 5+ yr regional CA. And there is now a technical interview aspect. Not sure I'm ready for that interview in the next few months.

You need to look at history. A regional and its performance can be fixed with money. Regionals that have been poor performers (like pinnacle) can be set up as a pipeline/feed to a major. The mainline invests money in the infrastructure and turns the place around (endeavor). I think we’ll see more and more wholly owned regionals in the future with direct paths to that major.

Ok, so you pass the interview and then get your 2 years/2000hrs logged, and then seniority determines the order for who moves on to UA...but at what rate? X-pilots per month? You log 2k hours and then off you go right away? Something else? Is it basically a monthly flow through contingent upon passing the interview?

I have seen this answered yet.