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Burt123 10-20-2019 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by itsmytime (Post 2909407)
So “the hogan” rebranded as a “leadership assessment?”

The Hogan is still required, it says on the website.

itsmytime 10-20-2019 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Burt123 (Post 2909561)
The Hogan is still required, it says on the website.

That’s what I thought. So like I said before, no different than anybody else applying off the street. Looks like it only a win for CFI’s. As it allows you to have an offer at a major before even reaching 1500 hours.

NovemberBravo 10-21-2019 08:07 AM

Did anyone else realize Aviate basically has a near 1 year penalty. So basically after being accepted no matter what your status is you have to wait 6 months. So that pushes any of us to May no matter how senior you are. And if you miss those couple classes till summer when UA usually stops hiring you won’t see a classes until what September. A 9 month hold is ridiculous.

DarkSideMoon 10-21-2019 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by NovemberBravo (Post 2909760)
Did anyone else realize Aviate basically has a near 1 year penalty. So basically after being accepted no matter what your status is you have to wait 6 months. So that pushes any of us to May no matter how senior you are. And if you miss those couple classes till summer when UA usually stops hiring you won’t see a classes until what September. A 9 month hold is ridiculous.

Cool, so take your chances off the street then.

NovemberBravo 10-21-2019 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 2909796)
Cool, so take your chances off the street then.

Lol I can’t be bummed after recently hitting the previous requirements and now seeing they’ve been pushed out further. Haha tough crowd.

RabidW0mbat 10-21-2019 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by NovemberBravo (Post 2909760)
Did anyone else realize Aviate basically has a near 1 year penalty. So basically after being accepted no matter what your status is you have to wait 6 months. So that pushes any of us to May no matter how senior you are. And if you miss those couple classes till summer when UA usually stops hiring you won’t see a classes until what September. A 9 month hold is ridiculous.

That’s the nature of the beast. Sheesh, pilots will ***** about anything.

DarkSideMoon 10-21-2019 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by NovemberBravo (Post 2909858)
Lol I can’t be bummed after recently hitting the previous requirements and now seeing they’ve been pushed out further. Haha tough crowd.

There were guys stuck in the regionals for 15 years, you’re not going to find a lot of sympathy about the dream gig taking 6 extra months.

DarkSideMoon 10-21-2019 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by RabidW0mbat (Post 2909861)
That’s the nature of the beast. Sheesh, pilots will ***** about anything.

Many of the new people have no clue how bad it was. I heard a new hire student ask his sim instructor “why aren’t you at a major yet? You should be able to go easily!” The instructor has had his app in for years..

greatmovieistar 10-21-2019 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2907710)
You need to look at history. A regional and its performance can be fixed with money. Regionals that have been poor performers (like pinnacle) can be set up as a pipeline/feed to a major. The mainline invests money in the infrastructure and turns the place around (endeavor). I think we’ll see more and more wholly owned regionals in the future with direct paths to that major.

Thanks for answering a question nobody asked.

jetlag q 10-21-2019 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 2909865)
Many of the new people have no clue how bad it was. I heard a new hire student ask his sim instructor “why aren’t you at a major yet? You should be able to go easily!” The instructor has had his app in for years..


His sim instructor just like other pilots probably doesn’t have a degree. Doesn’t volunteer, the older pilot group doesn’t see the value in volunteering n believe it should be about piloting that’s it. Probably doesn’t have a professional resume. They stop applying!!!! Got comfy with their seniority. Nearing the age of retirement. Doesn’t wanna start over. Zero networking, zero events conventions attended. The older pilot isn’t gonna follow a regional chief pilot on social media and get buddy buddy with him meet for lunch and have him as a
mentor!( GEMS )

Just to name some reasons.

It’s called a job HUNT for a reason. The food doesn’t come to you you gotta get creative.


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