Rejected by Envoy and Mesa
#51
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You really should consider having a professional resume/application reviewing company that specializes in these things give your stuff a look. It will cost a little bit of money but the peace of mind will be worth it. And besides, the cost is what? A single premium pay trip once you get that job you’re looking for. Well worth it.
#52
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Background.. 1470 hours, clean FAA record, no criminal history, no DUI or anything. I have a 4 year degree with honors from a good university. I’m in my mid 20s. I’ve checked and rechecked my application. Worst thing is that I had a string of bad luck with driving in the last 18 months. I got pulled over 3 times, twice for speeding 10% over the limit (both times they were deferred and dropped from my driving record after 90 days.) I also got nailed during those same traffic stops for having a headlight out and license plates expired. I know, I messed up on these stupid little things but learned from it.
I interviewed with Envoy, showed up prepared with all paperwork and thoroughly studied. Interview went great, was told I was well prepared and did a good job. But 9 days later I got an email saying “we’re sorry, we can’t consider you at this time, apply again in 6 months.
So I applied to Mesa, they called me and I got a phone screen an hour later. It went fine. But then I get the same rejection email 30 minutes later.
I know how to interview because I went through many while trying to get a job out of college and I received offers. I’ve always shown up prepared and well dressed, shoes shined, paperwork in order.
What gives? Im prepared to bring at least 5 if not 10 recommendation letters to my next interview. I’m baffled especially in this hiring environment. Nervous to keep interviewing if this is going to keep happening, possibly closing more doors!
I interviewed with Envoy, showed up prepared with all paperwork and thoroughly studied. Interview went great, was told I was well prepared and did a good job. But 9 days later I got an email saying “we’re sorry, we can’t consider you at this time, apply again in 6 months.
So I applied to Mesa, they called me and I got a phone screen an hour later. It went fine. But then I get the same rejection email 30 minutes later.
I know how to interview because I went through many while trying to get a job out of college and I received offers. I’ve always shown up prepared and well dressed, shoes shined, paperwork in order.
What gives? Im prepared to bring at least 5 if not 10 recommendation letters to my next interview. I’m baffled especially in this hiring environment. Nervous to keep interviewing if this is going to keep happening, possibly closing more doors!
Have you ever been arrested by the police or law enforcement, ever ?
How many checkrides have you failed ?
Any FAA violations or sanctions against you ?
I know you said "clean record" but did any actions such as the above ever get initiated by another agency
#53
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Im thinking I made some mistakes with my application.
Also, a personal friend of mine with mostly the same clean background was rejected as well. I’m sure we both made mistakes, but they can also afford to be selective at this time which contributed.
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No arrest (checked records too in case of a mistaken ID or ID theft) one check ride failure (PPL) and no FAA actions against me or violations.
Im thinking I made some mistakes with my application.
Also, a personal friend of mine with mostly the same clean background was rejected as well. I’m sure we both made mistakes, but they can also afford to be selective at this time which contributed.
Im thinking I made some mistakes with my application.
Also, a personal friend of mine with mostly the same clean background was rejected as well. I’m sure we both made mistakes, but they can also afford to be selective at this time which contributed.
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From: 737 FO
We can't discuss security protocols or checks.
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That's what I thought, thanks for the clarification. Is the check the same as one would take if they were to work at an airport in a non-fly capacity? If so, does the ability to pass that check mean one would pass the airline’s check for a pilot position?
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