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Old 01-23-2020 | 09:21 AM
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I went through my application (AirlineApp) and for the question that asked “Are you eligible for an ATP or rATP per 61.159 or 61.160” I answered “no” because I don’t have 1500 hours yet, maybe that hit them the wrong way and I was supposed to say I am eligible? You’d think they would have asked that though to clarify
And just a follow-up, AirlineApps is kind of a pain to fill out if you aren’t familiar. Many pilots get professional help with their applications, even for regionals.
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Old 01-23-2020 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jimpix89
I went through my application (AirlineApp) and for the question that asked “Are you eligible for an ATP or rATP per 61.159 or 61.160” I answered “no” because I don’t have 1500 hours yet, maybe that hit them the wrong way and I was supposed to say I am eligible? You’d think they would have asked that though to clarify
You may be on to something with that thought. If everything is as you say, I'm thinking there must be an automatic disqualifier that is triggering the TBNT responses. Do you have a First Class Medical and a valid US Passport? There are certain questions that if you answer "No" to, it will be an automatic rejection, regardless of how well you think you interviewed.

Also, if you have a social media presence at all, spend some time cleaning it up. Anything they can find is fair game - including years old social media posts, etc.
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Old 01-23-2020 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jimpix89
I went through my application (AirlineApp) and for the question that asked “Are you eligible for an ATP or rATP per 61.159 or 61.160” I answered “no” because I don’t have 1500 hours yet, maybe that hit them the wrong way and I was supposed to say I am eligible? You’d think they would have asked that though to clarify

That can't be it.If it was, they wouldn't have interviewed you.

They know you don't have 1500 hours.

They interview people with less than 1500 hours all the time, and give them a class date when they get there.
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Old 01-23-2020 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Warrior
Also, if you have a social media presence at all, spend some time cleaning it up. Anything they can find is fair game - including years old social media posts, etc.
Envoy just maybe, but I seriously doubt that mesa even bothers. If they were going to do anything in the 30 minutes after an interview it would be SIDA (but you'd have filled out the forms if that was the case).

But very valid point for the majors especially.
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Old 01-23-2020 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
That can't be it.If it was, they wouldn't have interviewed you.

They know you don't have 1500 hours.

They interview people with less than 1500 hours all the time, and give them a class date when they get there.
Well I know that, I’m just saying by checking No in that box it may have looked like I got violated or something criminal made me unable to meet the “good moral character” requirement, that would make someone ineligible for the ATP or rATP

In a sense I’m not eligible because I don’t have 1500 just yet, but I will be eligible. Just wasn’t sure what the question was really asking.

Thing is, when you check Yes it brings up a list of hour requirements. 1500 for the unrestricted, 1250 with an aviation degree, 750 for military, etc.

Still don’t know and I would think someone would have clarified that

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Old 01-23-2020 | 01:19 PM
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Do you have any checkride failures? If so, how many?
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Old 01-23-2020 | 01:20 PM
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Do you have any checkride failures? If so, how many?
One. That’s it, just my PPL one time
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Old 01-23-2020 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jimpix89
Still don’t know and I would think someone would have clarified that
That's the thing. In this climate they would have asked to clarify almost anything.

SIDA disqualifying crimes or a very adverse reference check are about the only things I can think of where the likes of mesa would just pass on you with no questions asked. I know as fact of one guy who was told they couldn't hire him with his drug conviction but they'd hold a class date for him if he could it expunged quickly enough (he did, and is now a legacy CA).

Envoy is quite a bit more selective due to flow, in the old days I would say expect to fail an Envoy (Eagle) interview and be pleasantly surprised if get beyond a CJO. They had enough time do some research so that could have been anything, including social media, that easy catch you fumbled in the HS state finals, how you part your hair (them dallas boys are funny that way...)
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Old 01-23-2020 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
That's the thing. In this climate they would have asked to clarify almost anything.

SIDA disqualifying crimes or a very adverse reference check are about the only things I can think of where the likes of mesa would just pass on you with no questions asked. I know as fact of one guy who was told they couldn't hire him with his drug conviction but they'd hold a class date for him if he could it expunged quickly enough (he did, and is now a legacy CA).

Envoy is quite a bit more selective due to flow, in the old days I would say expect to fail an Envoy (Eagle) interview and be pleasantly surprised if get beyond a CJO. They has enough time do some research so that could have been anything, including how you part you're hair (them dallas boys are funny that way...)

It couldn’t be a disqualifying crime (I have none) because Envoy ran the background and said I’m eligible to apply in 6 months.

Mesa is weird though. No explanation for that unless their HR just doesn’t have it together.
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Old 01-23-2020 | 03:36 PM
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I’m thinking social media as well. Anything else they could have just asked especially Mesa I don’t think we turn down well qualified candidates for no reason. I post political things all the time but every few weeks go back and delete anything that could even potentially offend someone. Plus I keep it locked down.
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