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sgt98c 03-18-2020 05:47 AM

Are flowbacks possible?
 
Just curious about all of your flow agreements. Are flowbacks possible if the mainline carriers furlough?

Bruno82 03-18-2020 05:49 AM

No.... next


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sgt98c 03-18-2020 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Bruno82 (Post 3002361)
No.... next


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Are you answering for all agreements? Or just 1?

Cyio 03-18-2020 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by sgt98c (Post 3002359)
Just curious about all of your flow agreements. Are flowbacks possible if the mainline carriers furlough?

Not at Envoy.

trip 03-18-2020 09:10 AM

United has some kind of flow back to UAX if the furloughs go deep enough. Problem is UAX is looking at deep cuts, parking jets and furloughs as well. Do some UAX guys get bumped to make way for mainline? Not likely since they never had a flow-up in the first place, uncharted territory.

ZR29907 03-18-2020 09:13 AM

What does your contract say?

answer is likely no.

DoSomePilotStuf 03-18-2020 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 3002624)
United has some kind of flow back to UAX if the furloughs go deep enough. Problem is UAX is looking at deep cuts, parking jets and furloughs as well. Do some UAX guys get bumped to make way for mainline? Not likely since they never had a flow-up in the first place, uncharted territory.



Where does it say anywhere United has flow back?

Itsajob 03-18-2020 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 3002793)
Where does it say anywhere United has flow back?

United doesn’t have a flow back. There are furlough protections in our contract though. If we furlough back to January 2016 all 76 seat jets have to be reconfigured to 70 seats, and any airline operating those jets has to hire furloughed United pilots as new hires, but starting at second year pay. No flow back into captain seats like before.

dremaldent 03-18-2020 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 3002811)
United doesn’t have a flow back. There are furlough protections in our contract though. If we furlough back to January 2016 all 76 seat jets have to be reconfigured to 70 seats, and any airline operating those jets has to hire furloughed United pilots as new hires, but starting at second year pay. No flow back into captain seats like before.

How does that work for employees at regionals then? Do the United pilots come in at high seniority, or do they start again at the bottom? If they start at the bottom that doesn't sound very useful since regionals won't be hiring anyway, and any United pilots that come in will immediately be furloughed upon being hired...

DoNoHarm 03-18-2020 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by dremaldent (Post 3002864)
How does that work for employees at regionals then? Do the United pilots come in at high seniority, or do they start again at the bottom? If they start at the bottom that doesn't sound very useful since regionals won't be hiring anyway, and any United pilots that come in will immediately be furloughed upon being hired...


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