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Old 03-18-2020, 05:47 AM
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Just curious about all of your flow agreements. Are flowbacks possible if the mainline carriers furlough?
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Are you answering for all agreements? Or just 1?
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Just curious about all of your flow agreements. Are flowbacks possible if the mainline carriers furlough?
Not at Envoy.
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United has some kind of flow back to UAX if the furloughs go deep enough. Problem is UAX is looking at deep cuts, parking jets and furloughs as well. Do some UAX guys get bumped to make way for mainline? Not likely since they never had a flow-up in the first place, uncharted territory.
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What does your contract say?

answer is likely no.
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United has some kind of flow back to UAX if the furloughs go deep enough. Problem is UAX is looking at deep cuts, parking jets and furloughs as well. Do some UAX guys get bumped to make way for mainline? Not likely since they never had a flow-up in the first place, uncharted territory.


Where does it say anywhere United has flow back?
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Where does it say anywhere United has flow back?
United doesn’t have a flow back. There are furlough protections in our contract though. If we furlough back to January 2016 all 76 seat jets have to be reconfigured to 70 seats, and any airline operating those jets has to hire furloughed United pilots as new hires, but starting at second year pay. No flow back into captain seats like before.
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United doesn’t have a flow back. There are furlough protections in our contract though. If we furlough back to January 2016 all 76 seat jets have to be reconfigured to 70 seats, and any airline operating those jets has to hire furloughed United pilots as new hires, but starting at second year pay. No flow back into captain seats like before.
How does that work for employees at regionals then? Do the United pilots come in at high seniority, or do they start again at the bottom? If they start at the bottom that doesn't sound very useful since regionals won't be hiring anyway, and any United pilots that come in will immediately be furloughed upon being hired...
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How does that work for employees at regionals then? Do the United pilots come in at high seniority, or do they start again at the bottom? If they start at the bottom that doesn't sound very useful since regionals won't be hiring anyway, and any United pilots that come in will immediately be furloughed upon being hired...

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