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Old 03-01-2020, 06:39 AM
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What’s your airline doing for the Coronavirus?

YX was giving out weekly updates when the virus was contained solely within China. Now that’s it’s spread, and spreading within the US, we’ve been left in the dark with no guidance or updates.

Would be nice to know if the company has any plan of reduced flying, etc if this thing gets out of control. And by “out of control,” I mean public reaction and panic, not so much the virus itself. Shouldn’t be more than the flu/cold for healthy individuals.

Not a whole lot that can be done, I suppose. Just wondering what others’ situation is.
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[QUOTE=KCaviator;2987041]What’s your airline doing for the Coronavirus?

YX was giving out weekly updates when the virus was contained solely within China. Now that’s it’s spread, and spreading within the US, we’ve been left in the dark with no guidance or updates.

Would be nice to know if the company has any plan of reduced flying, etc if this thing gets out of control. And by “out of control,” I mean public reaction and panic, not so much the virus itself. Shouldn’t be more than the flu/cold for healthy individuals.

Not a whole lot that can be done, I suppose. Just wondering what others’ situation is.[

mortality rate for >80yo is almost 20%
i wouldn’t call that a cold
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Old 03-01-2020, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by KCaviator View Post
What’s your airline doing for the Coronavirus?

YX was giving out weekly updates when the virus was contained solely within China. Now that’s it’s spread, and spreading within the US, we’ve been left in the dark with no guidance or updates.

Would be nice to know if the company has any plan of reduced flying, etc if this thing gets out of control. And by “out of control,” I mean public reaction and panic, not so much the virus itself. Shouldn’t be more than the flu/cold for healthy individuals.

Not a whole lot that can be done, I suppose. Just wondering what others’ situation is.
I heard DL is planning a trial run on SEA-PKX using OO 175s, just to "test the waters." Rumor is there will be a few fuel stops along the way, but no one will be allowed off the aircraft for two weeks anyway, so technically it's a direct flight.
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Old 03-01-2020, 09:12 AM
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I heard DL is planning a trial run on SEA-PKX using OO 175s, just to "test the waters." Rumor is there will be a few fuel stops along the way, but no one will be allowed off the aircraft for two weeks anyway, so technically it's a direct flight.
Additional rumor, the fuel stops will also be 10hr rest breaks to comply with 117 as the current plans call for only one crew per flight.
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Old 03-01-2020, 09:19 AM
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CPZ is working on a plan, have it close to being complete, but is taking longer than expected and won't share any details until it's signed and official. They appreciate our continued patience.
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not so much the virus itself. Shouldn’t be more than the flu/cold for healthy individuals.
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Panic certainly doesn't help, but the virus is not insignificant. As noted above, mortality among the elderly is substantial.

Mortality among the young and healthy is non-trivial. 0.5% mortality at PSA for instance would be 10 dead pilots.

The most important method to slow the spread of the disease (ie not totally overwhelm the health system with everyone getting it at the same time) is shutting down ways that people efficiently spread the disease. Air travel would be high on that list.
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Old 03-01-2020, 09:40 AM
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Only one out of every 1,000 people in Hubei Province has contracted the coronavirus.There have been 66,337 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in China's Hubei Province, where the outbreak began in December. That sounds like a lot, but keep in mind that the population of Hubei is 59,170,000.The province is slightly smaller than Nebraska, but with thirty times as many inhabitants. With this sort of population density, it's a positive sign that just .11% (roughly 1 in 1000) of the population has caught COVID-19. Even if there were 53,000 unreported cases, that would mean only one out of every 500 people in Hubei caught the virus. Given the population density in most other countries is significantly lower than in China, we can expect that the coronavirus will have a much harder time spreading in much of the world.
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The vast majority of cases are mild, and the death rate is likely lower than reported. A large study of 72,000 confirmed COVID-19 patients in China found that 81% of cases were mild, another 14% were severe (characterized by difficulty breathing), and 5% were critical. Overall, the death rate was 2.3 percent. More recently, the WHO reported a death rate of 3.8% in China, but noted that it is rapidly falling as standards of care quickly improve. Early on, the city of Wuhan (where the disease originated) was inundated with patients and hospitals could not provide proper care due to overwhelming demand. For Chinese patients whose symptoms started after February 1st, the death rate is just 0.7 percent. (For comparison, the U.S. death rate from 2019-20's annual flu oubtreak is between .06 percent to 0.1 percent. SARS a similar virus to COVID-19, had a death rate of 9.6 percent.) The death rate could be even lower, as very mild cases of COVID-19 that resemble a common cold likely go unreported
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CPZ is working on a plan, have it close to being complete, but is taking longer than expected and won't share any details until it's signed and official. They appreciate our continued patience.





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https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...isnt-that-bad/

Written by a 66 year old American who got COVID on Diamond Princess.

Of course his case was immediately identified, he was isolated and received world-class medical care, and his case is but one of many thousand...but given folks 60+ are most at risk it is a valuable first-hand experience.
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