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Old 03-02-2020 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rld1k
I'd let a coronavirus patient sneeze in my face 50 times for a mainline job

😂 and there’d be a line around the corner behind you.
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Old 03-02-2020 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rld1k
I'd let a coronavirus patient sneeze in my face 50 times for a mainline job
Lmao
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Old 03-02-2020 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rld1k
I'd let a coronavirus patient sneeze in my face 50 times for a mainline job
I think this would be a nice touch at the job fairs.
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Old 03-02-2020 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by flynd94
I expect the regionals to share the pain UA/AA/DL are feeling. Reduced block hours if this continues into summer
They didn’t share the pain with the other “media plagues” in the past. Regionals exist for this exact reason. Mainline wouldn’t hesitate to take a half full 737 off a route and replace it with a CRJ to save costs. You won’t see much effect at the regional level unless the economy takes a dump along with this.
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Old 03-04-2020 | 03:06 PM
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I thought I would weigh in on some of the misinformation.

Currently new diagnosed cases in China are reducing. China was able to perform nothing short of a heroic act of containment of the virus. Cases in Europe, Iran, and South Korea are exponentially rising. Further mortality rate of diagnosed cases is much higher than previosly thought. On an epidemiological scale the orders of magnitude from 1 percent to 3 percent is a big deal. Also currently, as of now, on average 1 confirmed case has shown to infect 2 people. The unknown is the asymptomatic spread spead of the virus and the viral mutation in that population.

So far no other country has been able to contain as effectively as China. Both Italy, Iran and South Korea are struggling. I suspect, my personal opinion India will follow along with the major cities of the USA.

Several strains and mutations of the strains have been isolated. A theory of severity and virality of the strains has been proposed in a paper published out of China yesterday, still to be peer reviewed. The mutation of the specific strain in Washington State has raised some eyebrow in the scientific community. We're waiting on Dr. Trevor Bedford to release some more data.

For context sake, underlying health conditions should be defined, as many people are under the impression that most of the United states population is relatively healthy.

So far from the data, mortality of patients was greatest on patients with heart disease, diabetes, pulmonary ailments, smokers and high BMI. These are not patients that were confined to hospital beds although those that are in serious condition already will have disastrous results.

As "healthy" pilots as we all are, many may not even have symptoms, or only a mild sickness, we are the primary hosts to bring the virus back home to our loved ones. Loved ones that are elderly, young, and/or not in good health. This virus differs from many others as asymptomatic carriers still exhibit high levels of viral shedding .

Stay safe, wash your hands, and call out sick if your sick, stay home and see a doctor.
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Old 03-04-2020 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Burt123
They didn’t share the pain with the other “media plagues” in the past. Regionals exist for this exact reason. Mainline wouldn’t hesitate to take a half full 737 off a route and replace it with a CRJ to save costs. You won’t see much effect at the regional level unless the economy takes a dump along with this.

Yes, initially in a downturn the major has to pay for contracted feed regardless, so they'll usually keep flying it.

If it drags out, regional feed could be reduced by natural contract expirations or possibly drug deals with regional managers (might be cheaper to pay them not to fly and save some costs, ie fuel).

Wholly Owned regionals are of course "owned", and not in a good way. They can typically do whatever they want, just like mainline.
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Old 03-04-2020 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by OpMidClimax
As "healthy" pilots as we all are, many may not even have symptoms, or only a mild sickness, we are the primary hosts to bring the virus back home to our loved ones. Loved ones that are elderly, young, and/or not in good health. This virus differs from many others as asymptomatic carriers still exhibit high levels of viral shedding .

Stay safe, wash your hands, and call out sick if your sick, stay home and see a doctor.
Consider turning off recirc fans!
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Old 03-04-2020 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 155mm
Consider turning off recirc fans!
Eff that. Just keep the packs off.
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Old 03-04-2020 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver
Eff that. Just keep the packs off.
Right now initial studies show the virus does not survive extended periods airborne. The virus must stay in an aqueous environment. Therefore, air going through the recirc and the ACM is thought to fully denature the RNA. This is only theory right now and I can't find a concrete study performed yet. At this time a six foot radius is considered the maximum distance from the carrier to infect others.

Most experts have agreed that HVAC and recirculated air will not spread the virus. The way this virus is believed to spread is with direct or indirect contact.

For us pilots, swapping into a fresh aircraft and handshakes with the last crew. Performing checks, manipulating controls, switches etc and then touching your face, picking your nose, or rubbing your eyes. Sanicom wipes may help, but probasbly little effective as they can't disinfect large surface area that are in the cockpit.

Stay safe out there and protect eachother and your families.
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Old 03-04-2020 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OpMidClimax

So far from the data, mortality of patients was greatest on patients with heart disease, diabetes, pulmonary ailments, smokers and high BMI. These are not patients that were confined to hospital beds although those that are in serious condition already will have disastrous results..
Cite your source please?
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