I'd rather come back from my furlough with enough paycheck to save money again. Full pay to the last day.

FPTTLD absolutely.

And this is coming from someone who is squarely junior enough to be on the street on Oct 1st.

I don't think you get it both ways. If you view someone as "scum" for picking up OT while there are still pilots sidelined, it is logically inconsistent to view someone who is ok with furloughs so long as they get their guarantee as anything other than scum. Or vice versa.

Personally, I'm happy to accept a temporary (i.e. reviewed-each-month) reduced monthly guarantee if it helps keep someone around longer.

interesting argument to square.

Whatever the MMG goes down to becomes the ceiling once bankruptcy starts. At that point, it might take years/half a decade/more to get back what was lost. Assuming one didn't sit on the couch the entire time, a one-to-two-year furlough with a return to full MMG might actually end up costing less than long-term reduced wages.

In order to protect that long-term MMG for everyone, you'd have to take the furloughs over the initial hit to MMG.

If I could 100% guarantee that a hit to MMG would be temporary and absolutely result with no furloughs, then I'd be in. I don't trust the company to not furlough later anyway, though, and I don't trust a bankruptcy court to not make MMG concessions semi-permanent.

The airlines have nobody to blame but themselves for the full pay until the last day stance. At every downturn they have taken advantage of the labor force pulling this "we are all in this together" and "everybody needs to sacrifice" routine. But when things pick back up historically pay and QOL restoration lags behind by years. Meanwhile the Airline and their stockholders are making bank with record profits. We have to learn from our mistakes in the past.

It seems.to me that the company would prefer to have a higher MMG once times turn around since they are now getting more productivity out of each pilot. If you are using 4000 pilots at 75 hours a month instead of 6000 pilots at 50.hours a month you are still producing the same amount of Revenue passenger miles without needing 2000 more line checks, 2000 more sim checks, and 2000 health insurance policies.
additionally once a pilot hits the max social security income their hourly costs drop by the companies 6.2% FICA tax. There are more fixed costs each of us have that is more cost effective spread over more hours. At my company even just getting close to MMG instead of 12 to 25 hours over that is a pipe dream for jr guys.

I find it hilarious that at the time of this posting 67% voted for full pay to the last day - makes perfect sense - 100-33=67 duuuh

My new hire class got cancelled. I'd rather find another job than see you guys take pay cuts.

Pilot salaries (labor in general) are by far and away the largest controllable expense at most airlines. ESPECIALLY at a regional which IS a staffing company. Right or wrong this is where they have to go first. They NEED the bodies so concessions are better than furloughs from the company point of view. Ultimately as a pilot your QOL is tied up with your seniority. When there is a down turn THAT is what you are saving - not necessarily the company but in essence your goals are aligned in a down turn. So the company is going to over reach on concessions. Pilots will under reach. It’ll be a negotiation. Both have something to save and something to lose.