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ChickHicks 05-02-2020 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3047303)
wow, I haven’t seen so much wrong in a long time.

First, merging PSA and Envoy is easier and cheaper.
second, seniority list mergers are not straight Date of Hire anymore and haven’t been for years.
Third, there is some savings in the areas you mentioned, but not as much as you seem to think. You still have to recruit, train and manage the same number of pilots. The real savings are more on the manager and up level, not on the worker bee. Reduced facility expenses is there too.

Serious question...why would it be easier and cheaper to merge PSA and envoy, then PDT and envoy?

ninerdriver 05-02-2020 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by point80 (Post 3047227)
ALPA to ALPA merges are easy too. Because its all based on hire date regardless of company. Unlike two different unions merging.

Pinnacle, Mesaba, and Colgan would all like to say hi.

Av8rPHX 05-02-2020 05:46 PM

Option D. All 3 wholly owned are sold to JO and added to the MAG portfolio


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Varsity 05-02-2020 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Av8rPHX (Post 3047388)
Option D. All 3 wholly owned are sold to JO and added to the MAG portfolio


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I would quit.

highfarfast 05-02-2020 06:06 PM

I think it would be easiest to merge PSA and Piedmont.

There, any other options not opined.

APCsucks 05-02-2020 07:56 PM

In the near future AA won't exist. We'll be lucky to see a american flag airplane flying by 2025. AA has more debt than the other majors combined. I call liquidation.

chrisreedrules 05-02-2020 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by APCsucks (Post 3047499)
In the near future AA won't exist. We'll be lucky to see a american flag airplane flying by 2025. AA has more debt than the other majors combined. I call liquidation.

The problem with liquidation in AA’s case is that they could liquidate and still owe tens of billions to their creditors. So they likely wouldn’t opt for that. Some money is better than no money at all. That being said Chapter 11 and a lot of shrinking or distressed debt restructuring are very likely.

sflpilot 05-03-2020 04:55 AM

So regional guys are still claiming they have protections. No you don’t and you never did.

sflpilot 05-03-2020 05:19 AM

So regional guys are still claiming they have protections. No you don’t and you never did.

captive apple 05-03-2020 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 3047505)
The problem with liquidation in AA’s case is that they could liquidate and still owe tens of billions to their creditors. So they likely wouldn’t opt for that. Some money is better than no money at all. That being said Chapter 11 and a lot of shrinking or distressed debt restructuring are very likely.

note: instead of “no money”, ch.7 provides proceeds through the liquidation of assets.


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