Does AA liquidate one WO
05-01-2020, 03:07 AM
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Does AA liquidate one WO
Say AA wants to substantially decrease WO volume requiring massive furloughs. Would it be cheaper to just liquidate (or suspend operations) at one airline rather than but all 3 through furlough/recall chaos?
05-01-2020, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JayBee
Nah, we will all three be absorbed by mainline 'murican and then furloughed in seniority order.
05-01-2020, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by sanicom3205
This is the exact opposite of reality. The last time you all will be absorbed is during a crisis where they want lower cost labor. Merged, maybe.
Second, seniority order would mean we were canned first. Guess a /s could have been applied.
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05-01-2020, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT
Say AA wants to substantially decrease WO volume requiring massive furloughs. Would it be cheaper to just liquidate (or suspend operations) at one airline rather than but all 3 through furlough/recall chaos?
05-02-2020, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT
Why would they prefer that?
ALPA to ALPA merges are easy too. Because its all based on hire date regardless of company. Unlike two different unions merging.
Merging also saves money because instead of 2-3 different recruiting centers, training teams, management, and union reps, you only have one.
After that they will furlough junior pilots as one or two big groups. Instead of 3.
Note..
Not basing this on any reports just what makes the most sense.
so like he said merge then furlough.
05-02-2020, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT
Say AA wants to substantially decrease WO volume requiring massive furloughs. Would it be cheaper to just liquidate (or suspend operations) at one airline rather than but all 3 through furlough/recall chaos?
05-02-2020, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by point80
Honestly it is most likely to merge Piedmont and Envoy. They both fly the 145s so integration wont be hard. A little bit tricker with PSA. Also, PSA and Envoy have bad blood, or so im told. Piedmont also only has 600-700 pilots. Where PSA and Envoy each have over 2,000.
ALPA to ALPA merges are easy too. Because its all based on hire date regardless of company. Unlike two different unions merging.
Merging also saves money because instead of 2-3 different recruiting centers, training teams, management, and union reps, you only have one.
After that they will furlough junior pilots as one or two big groups. Instead of 3.
Note..
Not basing this on any reports just what makes the most sense.
so like he said merge then furlough.
ALPA to ALPA merges are easy too. Because its all based on hire date regardless of company. Unlike two different unions merging.
Merging also saves money because instead of 2-3 different recruiting centers, training teams, management, and union reps, you only have one.
After that they will furlough junior pilots as one or two big groups. Instead of 3.
Note..
Not basing this on any reports just what makes the most sense.
so like he said merge then furlough.
First, merging PSA and Envoy is easier and cheaper.
second, seniority list mergers are not straight Date of Hire anymore and haven’t been for years.
Third, there is some savings in the areas you mentioned, but not as much as you seem to think. You still have to recruit, train and manage the same number of pilots. The real savings are more on the manager and up level, not on the worker bee. Reduced facility expenses is there too.
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