Meep

misread post, disregard.

Hacker15e

Even folks here on APC who were interested in leaving FX for the pax carriers back in the winter:

Considering jumping ship

"The majority of my buddies fly for the UAL/Delta/AA/SWA and truly think I’m nuts staying on board FedEx’s sinking ship."

jumppilot

I think Andreas Lubitz showed us single-pilot ops aren’t a good idea.

ZeroTT

Reduced cockpit staffing is an enormous money saver. How soon? Hard to say. Will every big spender in aviation push for it? Absolutely. Look how hard every contract is fought. Look how hard Boeing pushed to reduce pilot costs on the max

123494

How hard did they push since the MAX has pretty much the same overhead panel as the 737 Classic?

DarkSideMoon

That’s exactly how they pushed. They’d rather retrofit the rest of the airplane to accommodate the 1950’s flight deck than have airlines possibly have to pay for differences training.

Excargodog

My read is that they got caught with their pants down by the NEO and needed to quickly put lipstick on a 53 year old pig. They needed a clean sheet design, or better yet, the start of a type-family which Boeing sort of pioneered with the 757/767 42 years ago then dropped with follow on aircraft.

Lucifer

Who's fault is that? Why haven't the three major pilot unions haven't created a single DOH list that is fenced to protect anybody currently on a property from displacement due to a company transfer/change, but puts everybody after that fixed industry date by DOH on the industry combined list.

Take health and insurance benefits away from the companies and provided through the union, just have the company remit their share to the union program. Now, when you change jobs, all that changes is where the check comes form. Heck, even move the 401k's to be union managed... now you don't need to roll over or anything else.

Lots of things the unions "should" do but never will since they are big business just like the Airlines and big business always takes care of their own first.... they are all sloths guilty of greed.... more for them, none for you. My favorite sins....

DarkSideMoon

No disagreement there, but I also read a lot of effort was put into to the design to keep the feds from requiring differences training. I think it was southwest that had some sort of clause about it in their purchase agreement.

ZeroTT

no, the airline would rather do that. Boeing just says “how high” That’s how hard airlines push labor costs.