Open Skies Article: Interesting Read
05-18-2017, 01:51 PM
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Open Skies Article: Interesting Read
For those of you that are engaged in this ME3 vs "The Legacies"... this is an interesting read.
http://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/news/2017/05/18/fedex-voices-concerns-over-legacy-airlines.html?ana=yahoo&yptr=yahoo
I also find it ironic that JetBlue is PRO-ME3. An ALPA carrier with an anti-ALPA agenda 🤔 At any rate this is a good read to show what we are fighting against within this country. Maybe AA/UA/DL need to get together and put together some patriotic campaign that goes direct to the consumer. I don't see how they (we) win this battle.
http://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/news/2017/05/18/fedex-voices-concerns-over-legacy-airlines.html?ana=yahoo&yptr=yahoo
I also find it ironic that JetBlue is PRO-ME3. An ALPA carrier with an anti-ALPA agenda 🤔 At any rate this is a good read to show what we are fighting against within this country. Maybe AA/UA/DL need to get together and put together some patriotic campaign that goes direct to the consumer. I don't see how they (we) win this battle.
05-18-2017, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Scott
For those of you that are engaged in this ME3 vs "The Legacies"... this is an interesting read.
http://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/n...hoo&yptr=yahoo
I also find it ironic that JetBlue is PRO-ME3. An ALPA carrier with an anti-ALPA agenda 🤔 At any rate this is a good read to show what we are fighting against within this country. Maybe AA/UA/DL need to get together and put together some patriotic campaign that goes direct to the consumer. I don't see how they (we) win this battle.
http://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/n...hoo&yptr=yahoo
I also find it ironic that JetBlue is PRO-ME3. An ALPA carrier with an anti-ALPA agenda 🤔 At any rate this is a good read to show what we are fighting against within this country. Maybe AA/UA/DL need to get together and put together some patriotic campaign that goes direct to the consumer. I don't see how they (we) win this battle.
It's the part that gives them freedom to operate from the UAE, or Qatar essentially without restrictions. Unlike passenger carriers, cargo carriers can go in and out at multiple times before returning home to the US. The fear of losing that, is what is driving FedEx's opposition to United, American, and Delta.
05-19-2017, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael Scott
For those of you that are engaged in this ME3 vs "The Legacies"... this is an interesting read.
http://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/n...hoo&yptr=yahoo
I also find it ironic that JetBlue is PRO-ME3. An ALPA carrier with an anti-ALPA agenda 🤔 At any rate this is a good read to show what we are fighting against within this country. Maybe AA/UA/DL need to get together and put together some patriotic campaign that goes direct to the consumer. I don't see how they (we) win this battle.
http://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/n...hoo&yptr=yahoo
I also find it ironic that JetBlue is PRO-ME3. An ALPA carrier with an anti-ALPA agenda 🤔 At any rate this is a good read to show what we are fighting against within this country. Maybe AA/UA/DL need to get together and put together some patriotic campaign that goes direct to the consumer. I don't see how they (we) win this battle.
05-19-2017, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 402DRVR
The difference being that the pilots at JetBlue generally oppose the ME3 in line with ALPA's agenda. It is management that contrasts with ALPA's agenda not our pilots.
No thanks.
05-19-2017, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Dharma
I can't speak for the Alaska or Hawaiian pilots, but I hope their view is similar. All non-US3 pilots have to understand that if the ME3 puts our international flights out of business, that capacity is going someplace... most likely into the domestic system and it could start another wave of overcapacity, competition for a limited passenger pool, and possibly another wave of bankruptcies.
No thanks.
No thanks.
I refer you to the fleet flexibility discussion here:
http://www.veracast.com/webcasts/bam...6101116293.cfm
05-20-2017, 09:48 AM
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The solution is easy. The US government needs to give the US airlines subsidies of an equal amount that the ME3 get. The US airlines can buy Boeing aircraft to fly to the Middle East and anywhere else the ME3 abuses the system!
Since our government doesn't care about a balanced budget, another 50 billion dollar line item is nothing.
Since our government doesn't care about a balanced budget, another 50 billion dollar line item is nothing.
05-21-2017, 05:50 AM
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The battle against the ME3 was lost ten years ago. I'm sorry to say that NOBODY is on OUR side on this one. JetBlue, Virgin America/Alaska, Hawaiian, FedEx, UPS and American either codeshare directly with one or all of the ME3 airlines or have a cargo facility located over there that makes them side with the ME3. Congress, the President and the American people are on the side of the ME3 as well. Congress has been bought off, the President has hotels over there and Boeing has Trump in their pocket etc...and the American voter HATES our airlines.
This battle was lost almost a decade before the former Delta CEO started organizing a campaign to fight the ME3 a few years ago.
This battle was lost almost a decade before the former Delta CEO started organizing a campaign to fight the ME3 a few years ago.
05-22-2017, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Except that our management has learned that capacity drives revenue. We would see a whole lot of parked and underutilized aircraft before that happens. Still not good though.
I refer you to the fleet flexibility discussion here:
http://www.veracast.com/webcasts/bam...6101116293.cfm
I refer you to the fleet flexibility discussion here:
http://www.veracast.com/webcasts/bam...6101116293.cfm
But at this point, it's all conjecture.
05-22-2017, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueRidger328
The solution is easy. The US government needs to give the US airlines subsidies of an equal amount that the ME3 get. The US airlines can buy Boeing aircraft to fly to the Middle East and anywhere else the ME3 abuses the system!
Since our government doesn't care about a balanced budget, another 50 billion dollar line item is nothing.
Since our government doesn't care about a balanced budget, another 50 billion dollar line item is nothing.
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