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Old 10-06-2020, 02:13 PM   #21  
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So recruits aren't allowed to ask questions that could potentially affect their careers and livelihood? Starting to feel like 2008 again when pilots were just "thankful to have a job"...

Not setting a great precedence.
Itís supply and demand. Pre-COVID, you could do that because the companies were begging for you to work there. Now you (we) are the ones begging. With literally thousands of other (more) qualified applicants, itís best not to sound Ike youíre interviewing them.

One should be thankful to have a job. But one should not sacrifice the gains of the last decade for the sake of that job.
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Old 10-06-2020, 02:29 PM   #22  
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My college is hosting a career day in November, and three regionals are bringing their recruiters and recruiting toys: Endeavor, Republic, and PSA.

In this environment, especially with 700 furloughs at PSA, Iím dumbfounded that money is being spent on recruiting.
Yea itís pretty ridiculous. Those college kids paid all that cash at least they get a free RJ poster to put up and keychains.
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My college is hosting a career day in November, and three regionals are bringing their recruiters and recruiting toys: Endeavor, Republic, and PSA.

In this environment, especially with 700 furloughs at PSA, Iím dumbfounded that money is being spent on recruiting.
With college recruiting events you are looking at recruiting new hires 2 - 5 years down the road when you take into account time building. So I guess they are still being optimistic that hiring will begin in that time frame. I am not that optimistic especially considering the disheartening news from the Big 4 about future bookings. We won't see hiring like we saw last year until sometime in the 2nd half of this decade.
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My dad was in HR for a private business, non airline related. He was told to go interview on campus even when their recruitment goals were zero. Keep the foot in the door. Maintain relationships. Helped when they needed to hire a bunch the next year.
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My college is hosting a career day in November, and three regionals are bringing their recruiters and recruiting toys: Endeavor, Republic, and PSA.

In this environment, especially with 700 furloughs at PSA, Iím dumbfounded that money is being spent on recruiting.
Make sure to ask the Endeavor recruiters about the less than coin flip odds of success on the DGI. Make your best impression as if you were being interviewed, but don't be afraid to professionally ask tough questions. This is YOUR career. When we do start hiring again, pick a regional you won't mind being stuck at.
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My college is hosting a career day in November, and three regionals are bringing their recruiters and recruiting toys: Endeavor, Republic, and PSA.

In this environment, especially with 700 furloughs at PSA, Iím dumbfounded that money is being spent on recruiting.

just remember the companies that rejected working with their pilot groups and furloughed pilots because they were trying to take advantage of a once in a lifetime (hopefully) catastrophe when you make your eventual employment decision. Good luck to you.
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while 1600 at mainline and 700 at PSA are out on furlough.

how many pilots from envoy are on the street right now?
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It's important to remember that Envoy isn't PSA.227
Fixed it for him.
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1) don't be afraid to professionally ask tough questions.
2)When we do start hiring again, pick a regional you won't mind being stuck at.
assuming #1 is wise (debatable) what makes you think it helps inform #2
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assuming #1 is wise (debatable) what makes you think it helps inform #2
Asking tough questions of an airline recruiter is like asking for help solving a problem at the DMV. You'll get a smirk, followed by a blank stare, followed by some made up shtuff that isn't really an answer.
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assume the answer is bad. What makes you think a recruiter 1) knows the truth 2) would tell you

Youíre a job applicant, not a stock analysr
This is quite true. Recruiters know rumors similar to most line pilots. They canít (shouldnít) convey unsubstantiated rumors to recruits. They donít know what moves management is doing anymore than anyone else. Although Envoy has done a nice job of selling a surreal flow time.
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