Oo / 9e / yx
#11
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Joined APC: May 2019
Posts: 344
Technically we have trip dropping through Sked+, but there needs to be sufficient reserves in the appropriate bucket to cover the entire trip, in base, and maybe even system wide, to actually drop into open time. Since we are chronically understaffed, there are never enough reserves to cover your trip, so you can never drop.
There is the ability to post and pray that someone else wants your trip, but if it's anything other than a high paying local or a good standup, fuhgeddaboudit.
Occasionally you can trade with someone, or split the trip up into more desirable pieces to get someone to pick it up. Cash helps too.
You can also exchange a pairing you don't want with one in company open time, but company constraints on number of days, number of reserves on the days you want to get rid of, and other unknown line constraints usually result in Failure
When all else fails, platinum days.
In summary, we have the option to drop, but usually that translates to the inability to drop
#12
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: B747 FO
Posts: 610
TFAYD
Technically we have trip dropping through Sked+, but there needs to be sufficient reserves in the appropriate bucket to cover the entire trip, in base, and maybe even system wide, to actually drop into open time. Since we are chronically understaffed, there are never enough reserves to cover your trip, so you can never drop.
There is the ability to post and pray that someone else wants your trip, but if it's anything other than a high paying local or a good standup, fuhgeddaboudit.
Occasionally you can trade with someone, or split the trip up into more desirable pieces to get someone to pick it up. Cash helps too.
You can also exchange a pairing you don't want with one in company open time, but company constraints on number of days, number of reserves on the days you want to get rid of, and other unknown line constraints usually result in Failure
When all else fails, platinum days.
In summary, we have the option to drop, but usually that translates to the inability to drop
Technically we have trip dropping through Sked+, but there needs to be sufficient reserves in the appropriate bucket to cover the entire trip, in base, and maybe even system wide, to actually drop into open time. Since we are chronically understaffed, there are never enough reserves to cover your trip, so you can never drop.
There is the ability to post and pray that someone else wants your trip, but if it's anything other than a high paying local or a good standup, fuhgeddaboudit.
Occasionally you can trade with someone, or split the trip up into more desirable pieces to get someone to pick it up. Cash helps too.
You can also exchange a pairing you don't want with one in company open time, but company constraints on number of days, number of reserves on the days you want to get rid of, and other unknown line constraints usually result in Failure
When all else fails, platinum days.
In summary, we have the option to drop, but usually that translates to the inability to drop
#13
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Joined APC: Jun 2021
Posts: 794
“Company need”, it’s not assigned on a day you specifically bid off. It’s the pairing scraps left over that wasn’t already assigned. I’ve been burned by some junk “CN” standups myself. I’ve also been assigned some VERY senior trips a few times. It’s obviously a huge flaw in the system that ticks off everyone.
Last edited by KirillTheThrill; 08-13-2021 at 07:20 AM.
#14
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Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,067
“Company need”, it’s not assigned on a day you specifically bid off. It’s the pairing scraps left over that wasn’t already assigned. I’ve been burned by some junk “CN” standups myself. I’ve also been assigned some VERY senior trips a few times. It’s obviously a huge flaw in the system that ticks off everyone.
#16
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 180
I can't speak to the others, but I can verify that schedule flexibility isn't very good at OO. Normally even at fairly high seniority, you'll be scheduled for so much flying that it's difficult to trade trips over different days even if you find someone who wants to. I can't say I've never been able to drop anything, but it's been a rare occasion that finds me with the opportunity to drop a trip that I wish to drop.
#17
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 336
I can't speak to the others, but I can verify that schedule flexibility isn't very good at OO. Normally even at fairly high seniority, you'll be scheduled for so much flying that it's difficult to trade trips over different days even if you find someone who wants to. I can't say I've never been able to drop anything, but it's been a rare occasion that finds me with the opportunity to drop a trip that I wish to drop.
#19
The only time I’ve been jr manned were due to maintenance and weather issues on the last day which extended me a additional day. When you get extended, it’s usually DH back to base on the last day. That was my experience while I was at PSA.
PSA doesn’t jr man like Air Wisconsin do...
#20
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Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 2,012
no. The system which allows HUGE flexibility to lineholders also requires HUGE reserves. As an example, every single lineholder can drop Christmas Day. Very little junior manning except for maintenance issues at outstations