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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
(Post 3304087)
I remember a buddy of mine telling me how management at his outfit sent a memo to the pilots telling them not to buy food with food stamps while in uniform.
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Originally Posted by Wilfortina
(Post 3304034)
sooo…you’re comparing Europe 121 to US 121 and 135 combined? Doesn’t quite sound like a fair comparison
135 is another animal entirely. Among many other differences they don't have a 1500/ATP rule so irrelevant to this discussion. Basically some dude just said 1500 hours doesn't make a difference, while pointing out that we've had 1 fatality in 121 in the last five years but 1200 in 135??? I excluded SWA because that had nothing to do with pilots. |
Originally Posted by yelkhettar
(Post 3303980)
Just a reminder. The United States reports the highest number of civil airliner accidents in the world. Around 1200 fatalities in commercial air transport in the US from 2015 to 2019 compared to 700 in all of Europe. Don’t get me wrong I’m not European. I’m just saying that this 1500 hours rule doesn’t make any sense. Everyday thousands of flights in Europe (Ryanair, Easyjet etc…) are taking off with copilots that are 25 years old who got their jobs with 250 hours logged. Do you think these compagnies are putting their passengers and planes in danger because of that? This is all politics here in the US. It has nothing to do with the fact that 1500 hours makes you a better pilot to drive a airliner.
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 3304070)
Where are you getting these stats? Do you even google? Holy crap you're way off.
We have, by far, the safest aviation system in the world. Not even close. Go to the FAA website and do the math Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by yelkhettar
(Post 3304287)
Go to the FAA website and do the math
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Originally Posted by yelkhettar
(Post 3304287)
Go to the FAA website and do the math
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3303955)
He might have learned basic airmanship if he had 1500 hours in GA. He was a low-time P2F kind of regional pilot. You're not going to learn basic airmanship in most 121.
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
(Post 3304337)
You’re telling me that 2500 hrs 121 plus checking and testing couldn’t fix what another 1000hrs part 91 SE piston would have?
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
(Post 3304337)
You’re telling me that 2500 hrs 121 plus checking and testing couldn’t fix what another 1000hrs part 91 SE piston would have?
1000 hours in GA might have scared him... either scared straight or maybe into quitting. I knew people who did both. The guy did not understand his own limitations, somebody with his natural aptitude attempting to perform a brutally complex coupled straight-in ILS should not have been shooting the breeze with the FO, he should have been sitting up straight, laser-focused on managing his airspeed (since the AP was doing everything else). Also the colgan crash was the chickens coming home to roost... for decades the regionals wouldn't touch pilots with less than 1000-3000 hours, but they got a little shortage going on and suddenly decided (some of them) to break their own rules. The fed just intervened to remove the temptation to make bad choices. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3304128)
Your numbers are grossly wrong, two orders of magnitude too high. We're talking 121 here, not 135/GA. The 1500 hour rule applies only to 121.
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