Originally Posted by Approach1260 (Post 3302448)

The biggest reason I don't ever see the 1,500 hour rule going away is because I can't think of a single politician who would go on the record to fight for something that would appear to normal people as making air travel less safe.

Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 3303999)

The last airline hull loss was Colgan and the last fatality was that SWA engine failure. Where on earth are you getting 1200 fatalities? You have to be including part 91 stuff which is not the same.

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes (Post 3304014)

Last 121 passenger fatality:
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/avia...ocuments-show/

But if you want to look at air carriers, as in scheduled operations, numbers might be quite a bit different. The US tends to have a lot more places with air service/flights, given we don't have the rail-network of Europe with all the big countries so close. Air carriers should be the only important number, rather than chopping it up 121 vs 135. 135 includes both on-demand and commuter air-carrier, which feeds larger airlines. Of course "regionals" used to all be 135, then there was the rule change, but there are still lots and lots of 135 air carriers doing scheduled service to places every day. These should count just as much.

Originally Posted by yelkhettar (Post 3303980)

Just a reminder. The United States reports the highest number of civil airliner accidents in the world. Around 1200 fatalities in commercial air transport in the US from 2015 to 2019 compared to 700 in all of Europe. Don’t get me wrong I’m not European. I’m just saying that this 1500 hours rule doesn’t make any sense. Everyday thousands of flights in Europe (Ryanair, Easyjet etc…) are taking off with copilots that are 25 years old who got their jobs with 250 hours logged. Do you think these compagnies are putting their passengers and planes in danger because of that? This is all politics here in the US. It has nothing to do with the fact that 1500 hours makes you a better pilot to drive a airliner.


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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes (Post 3304014)

Last 121 passenger fatality:
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/avia...ocuments-show/

But if you want to look at air carriers, as in scheduled operations, numbers might be quite a bit different. The US tends to have a lot more places with air service/flights, given we don't have the rail-network of Europe with all the big countries so close. Air carriers should be the only important number, rather than chopping it up 121 vs 135. 135 includes both on-demand and commuter air-carrier, which feeds larger airlines. Of course "regionals" used to all be 135, then there was the rule change, but there are still lots and lots of 135 air carriers doing scheduled service to places every day. These should count just as much.

Originally Posted by yelkhettar (Post 3303980)

Just a reminder. The United States reports the highest number of civil airliner accidents in the world. Around 1200 fatalities in commercial air transport in the US from 2015 to 2019 compared to 700 in all of Europe. Don’t get me wrong I’m not European. I’m just saying that this 1500 hours rule doesn’t make any sense. Everyday thousands of flights in Europe (Ryanair, Easyjet etc…) are taking off with copilots that are 25 years old who got their jobs with 250 hours logged. Do you think these compagnies are putting their passengers and planes in danger because of that? This is all politics here in the US. It has nothing to do with the fact that 1500 hours makes you a better pilot to drive a airliner.


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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3303363)

Glad to see most people understand that the 1500 hour rule wasn't about safety, it was about the unions

Originally Posted by Joachim (Post 3304076)

This is just the neo-conservative tinfoil BS that permeates 90% of your posts.

Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 3302746)

Does anyone remember the 1990's? Regionals wouldn't look at you unless you had 1500TT/250 Multi and then you had to fork over $10,000 to pay for your training.

Didn't have $10,000 for an $18,000/yr job? That's okay. Eagle would hire you without pay-for-training, but now you needed 2,000TT and 500 multi.

Kids these days.

And get off my lawn, too.